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Jay Ambrose

Maybe the most ridiculous if also the most common progressive complaint about Republicans refusing to impeach President Donald Trump is that he now really, truly will see himself as king, that he will behave like a dictator, that he will know he can get away with anything.

What’s more, it’s said, future presidents will figure on indulging in the same privileges, Congress will be a nothing branch of government, the Constitution will be meaningless and the rule of law will fear to ever enter the Oval Office.

I see this as wrong in several respects and intend to list them.

First, let’s consider the fact that Trump is maybe the most closely watched president in the history of the country.

A book and countless commentaries and news stories have told us how staffers surrounding him on a daily basis don’t trust him and try to hem him in. It almost seems like every other person in the White House leaks classified material that could damage him and maybe the nation.

In the latest impeachment quest, officials who listen into his phone calls ratted on him to someone who then mistakenly called himself a whistleblower.

Second, we come to something that also intervenes with the supposed boss, namely the administrative state, the bureaucracy that is awfully close in some respects to being the real government of the United States, whoever the president is or whatever Congress does. Here we have people who can sometimes get away with ignoring the president or doing the opposite of what he wants or at least muddling up the implementation.

This is nothing new. It got going with great energy under President Woodrow Wilson, who thought technocrats and intellectuals had all the answers, especially himself.

The new way of things was solidified by Franklin Roosevelt’s New Deal. Both of these presidents did some pretty horrible things, by the way: Wilson helped get a political opponent imprisoned as he quelled free speech and FDR stuck American citizens in detention centers for the crime of Japanese heritage.

The great tool of the administrative state is regulations. Some are necessary, of course, but they should be limited and Congress should review them.

We now have so many no one can count them and President Barack Obama, far more an autocrat than Trump, loved them as much as executive orders.

He set records in the writing of major ones and Trump set records in reducing their number.

Congress, which let the regulation overkill happen, has gotten a little more attentive to the issue but its legislative control remains a fraction of what it should be.

One Democratic presidential candidate, Elizabeth Warren, helped set up a massively interventionist consumer finance agency that got its money from the Federal Reserve, meaning that, when it came to oversight, Congress had no power of the purse.

Courts have the muscle to stymie presidential overreach, and Obama set another record as the Supreme Court kept saying sorry, but you’re not getting away with that.

Lower federal courts have gone after Trump with a vengeance that too often has had more to do with politics than the law. Here is another means by which his power is limited, if unconstitutionally.

One of his greatest achievements, however, is to have given us a bunch of judges who actually believe in the Constitution, both on the Supreme Court and lower courts.

It is also said that he has abused executive privilege, but understand that here is a right as precious in many ways as Congress’s right to impeach, and courts could have decided the matter.

Understand finally that Democrats in Congress are in no way going to start taking it easy on Trump, looking the other way if they smell something funny.

They will come at him on every other move he makes, as will CNN, MSNBC, The New York Times, The Washington Post and other aggressive media players that are not about to grow timid because their sense of righteousness has been assaulted.

Trump himself may have at last learned a lesson, that you have to stop and listen and learn from others and try to avoid carelessness.

Jay Ambrose is an op-ed columnist for Tribune News Service. Readers may email him at speaktojay@aol.com.

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jdinfinity3

I don't hide or fake my intents Hive.

Right there plain as day, no intentions on tricking or fooling anyone with deceit and phony cordiality...

Hive

Dig!

And, not turning off even closed-minded reader before you get point across helps the feel good part too!!!

Hive

Right K; why learn by taking the time to read facts. Spoon-fed alternate facts makes apathy easy.

Intensionallly driving conservatively at 5 mph under the speed limit does not mean Others of a different mind, traveling a bit faster will not pass or will slow.

Too, what goes around comes around, so trust liars and smile...while you fool self.

Hive

Jill LaPore (?) These Truths! A (history) book about America. Genius author.

Hive

All here attending should read pages 120 to 135 of "These Truths!" What goes around comes around.

FWIW, JD is fully aware ad hominems put readers off, but his intent is clear. Likewise, Bo's intent is, as usual, equally clear. The inquiring, open mind, sees this and will find the truth as does La Pore in her very incisive book.

Who trusts liars and deceitful men and women?

Answer, believers are, logically and in fact, equally deceitful and lying people.

There is zero excuse for this government's current behavior...

Mr.Johnson

See what I mean Mr. Martin? You disagree with me yet are civil enough to say have a good day. Mr. jdinifinity3 on the other hand disagrees with me and is compelled to call me “a scumbag”.

Khansky

Welcome to the echo chamber, where all are welcome (well some that is, provided you follow the party line).

jdinfinity3

Peopel are not fooled by you Johnson.

They are aware you are more of a scumbag than I will ever be...

martin

Whatever. hagd

Mr.Johnson

Mr. Martin, You are taking my Feb.12th quote out of context. It was in reply to Mr. jdinifinity3’s challenge to have him banned. Per Mr. jdinifinity3 “Ban me again, do it, I dare you.” Mr. jdinifinity3 layed down a provocative challenge. I believe my reply was civil and appropriate, especially in light of a previous statement by Mr. Jdinifinity3 that if he was ever banned again he would rain down the most vulgar, vile rant the WDN has ever seen. I prefer banter over vulgar and vile.

I’m not “worked up”, just disappointed in your desire to take away my free speech and potential my livelihood and that of my family. I thought you demeanor was more like Mr. Easy, who is greatly missed in this forum.

Retirement is great! Life is good. Every day I wake up is a great day.

martin

Mr. Johnson.. Didn't mean to get You all "worked up." I hope You are enjoying retirement . One question. Just what do You expect a person to think when someone says something like this ??? (Feb. 12 to Jd). "no need to ban you at this time. You haven't broken forum guidelines to warrant banning....yet" If that is not the voice of authority, I would like to know what is.

Mr.Johnson

Mr. Martin, I am a little disappointed in you. I never pegged you as someone that would advocate taking away someone’s free speech. So you want to control what I am allowed to say by rallying the cabal to boycott the WDN. Perhaps you think they would sit me down reprimanded me in some way or worse yet are hoping for an employee termination if that would serve your cause. Sorry to inform you that you have no influence on what I post. WDN has nothing to hold over my head to silence me on your behalf. In fact now that I think about it, I am very disappointed in you. Oh, by the way, I’m retired.

martin

Looks like Mr. Johnson has "admitted" working for the WDN. If so, I say he "should be impartial/not take sides". I think it is time for all of us "liberals" to cancel our subscription to the Winona Daily News.

Mr.Johnson

Mr. jdinifinity3, so your telling me you don’t remember calling Mr. Bolake a “Retard” or the following quotes directed at Mr. Bolake? “ And it doesn't matter if you're a moron like Bo,”. “ Like down syndrome incapable”.

Maybe you should check with Mr. Hive, a man with his hyper intelligence should be able to help you remember these insults that got the whole banning process for Mr. Bolake and you started.

Mr. Martin says you don’t hit below the belt. Mr. Hive says you are not a liar. You have often said that you take responsibility and admit when you make a mistake. So when I see say “ If I said so, it was only to indicate lack of intelligence. Not literally.”. Appears to me like you are putting the blame on Mr. Bolake for the words you wrote. And when you say “ I have never said anything of the sort. Please don't insinuate that I would or ever have made ”. Seems like you are trying to make me out as a liar. I will give you the benefit of the doubt and write it of as a lapse in memory.

Mr. jdinifinity3, in the past you have used very disparaging , insulting language against people with whom you disagree. Let’s hope this year will not be a repeat of last year.

jdinfinity3

Regardless of cages being there, Obama was not nearly as xenophobic, discriminatory and implementing in how he treated the immigrants compared to Trump, not even close.

"conservative non-profit organizations"

Like churches that make billions so dudes can drive around in ferraris? Or put it in trust funds? Funnel it all to an offshore?

Don't think I have disparaged war heroes? Have I? Are you insinuating like many other ignorant republicans, that I don't appreciate and respect them or my country? Because that seems to be a very ignorant and deluded argument that conservatives feel about liberals, and it is dead wrong. Almost all including myself have vets in family. Both grandfather's served WWII. Difference is, they thought america was everyone, not ignorantly keeping "enemies" out, even though it's a risk. A risk you take rather than sacrifice personal freedom for security and lose everything. Which is where we are heading imo.

Copying and pasting a long list of status displacement criteria does not constitute a person that necessarily respects any of those that they can pick and choose from.

It just looks like you...well...copied and pasted something to make it look good. And even though we 'should' do all those things. Most don't.

My continued civility will not be any better, and will continue to degrade as or if threats and patronizing continue. Which they most certainly will I'm guessing.

Banning me is more inconvenience than anything. But like I said before, don't do it...

jdinfinity3

incapable of thinking like someone with down syndrome"

I have never said anything of the sort. Please don't insinuate that I would or ever have made someone to believe they were retarded. If I said so, it was only to indicate lack of intelligence. Not literally.

See Johnson, that sort of stuff is just unacceptable. And yet you accuse me of hitting below the belt? And that my dialogue is inappropriate?

And yet you kill me sometimes, far worse than I.

*sigh*

Mr.Johnson

Mr. jdinifinity3, The cages you speak of were built and used by Obama administration. Oh, like the a Democrats don’t stomp on the constitution and abuse power? Trump is the first and only one to do this? Really? Like the IRS didn’t target conservative non-profit organizations during the Obama administration? Have you checked into what Clinton’s or Obama’s net worth was before and after serving as POTUS? Get real, Vets and active military love Trump.

Your bff Mr. Martin said you don’t hit below the belt. Why are you upset with me about it? How do you know you haven’t disparaged war heroes, veterans, currently serving military? Mr, K, Mr. Bolake, Mr. PackFan, Lemon Drop and others may very well have served honorably. Many vets don’t advertise it, or wear it on their sleeves. You should treat everyone with respect regardless of, race, creed, color, ethnicity, national origin, religion, sex, sexual orientation, gender expression, age, height, weight, physical or mental ability, veteran status, military obligations, and marital status.

No need to ban you at this time. You haven’t broken the forum guidelines to warrant banning ...yet.

Not patronizing but your continued civility is appreciated.

martin

Sounding more and more like boo by the minute.

Mr.Johnson

Mr. Martin, I believe it’s called holding your nose. The thing with Mitt, McCain and Bush is that they would tell you one thing and than do the other. I don’t endorse someone because Mitt or some movie star, rapper or TV celebrity endorses them. Trump said he would appoint Constitutional Conservative Judges, Secure the Border, Rebuild the Military, Fix Trade Agreements, Support our Police Officers, Support the Second Amendment and the list goes on and on. Now you may not like any of the issues but they are important to me.

Like jdinifinity3, Trump doesn’t sugar coat it, he is a “slugger” too. To say that jdinifinity3 does not hit below the belt depends on how low you wear you pants. If calling some one an idiot, moron, incapable of thinking like someone with down syndrome isn’t hitting below the belt, then you wear your pants very low. If not hitting below the belt than at least inappropriate, vile, hateful and disgusting. For the record, Trump hits below the belt and says inappropriate stuff. So I understand why you like or tolerate jdinifinity3.

jdinfinity3

What does he do?

He endorses immigration policies that put children in cages. He stomps on the constitution and democracy by abusing his power in office. He endorses dictators and tyrants. He tanks non-profit organizations, business, apts and the like to make profit. He disparages war heroes, veterans, currently serving military. That's the short list..

What exactly Johnson? Does he do?

As for hitting below the belt?

Ban me again, do it, I dare you.

U have no idea what below the belt is, because I've had it being patronized and threatened be you..

martin

Mr. Johnson. I cannot believe You can ignore and look the other way when it comes to trumps demeanor. HE IS NOT A REPUBLICAN. The Republicans were going to stop him until they realized how many were just like him (his base). HE IS THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA. I liked Mitt, McCain, Ryan the Bushs, and many old REAL Republicans, but would never vote for them because they are "wired" differently. Can't remember any of them endorsing trump. As for Jd, I think he is a "slugger, but does not hit below the belt.

Mr.Johnson

Thank you Mr. Martin. I appreciate your ability to keep it civil. Good question. Well to start with Trump is not perfect, none of us are. Trump is a counter puncher, much like jdinifinity3. You say something bad about them they will come at you with a wrath of fury and fire. I guess it’s the way they are wired. Much like your willingness to overlook jdinifinity3’s inappropriate rhetoric, I am willing to overlook Trump’s. Much like Jdinifinity3 saying things that some people are afraid to say, Trump has the same ability. Like Mr. Hive says, “it’s not about what you say, but what you do.” Hopefully I quoted that correctly. So for me, it’s not so much as what Trump says, it’s more what he does. Now you may not care or agree with what Trump does and I’m OK with that. I didn’t always agree with what Obama did. That’s just politics, as Obama said “Elections have consequences.” We are on our 45th President. We survived the first 44, we will survive 45.

Now it’s you turn to answer my previous question... if you like Mitt so much why didn’t you vote for him in 2012. Just my observation but looking back Democrats hated McCain until he voted NO to repeal Obamacare, Democrats hated Mitt until he voted YES to impeach Trump.

martin

I still do not think "he" is boo. He seems to know the difference between "wear and where". Back to my question. I always thought character of a candidate was VERY IMPORTANT in a election. So, going back 3 years, how could anyone vote for trump after what he said about WOMEN ???? You're up Mr. Johnson.

Hive

Mr "Johnson" - Mr "Dickk"? Does it matter? It is all Bo!

Hive

"Bo" again...duh! Same spots.

Hive

Martin "he just knows!"

Cannot accept that?

Like we do not accept a boasting, bloated POTus? Sinner us!

And "everybody knows" ... about him and Himself; different people same disease! Selfish dingers who

Fear and want us to fear them.

Mr.Johnson

You guys always amaze me with your conspiracy theories. This guy is Bo because he is an idiot, no that guy is Bo because he can’t spell, no the trumpeter guy is Bo. You guys make me laugh with your Bo paranoia.

Mr.Johnson

Well Mr. Martin, just like Mr. Hive, Mr. jdinifinity3, Mr. Killallthelawersfirst and you think alike, boo, I and 60+ Million other Americans think alike.

But seriously, why didn’t you vote for Mitt? My guess is that you bought into Media hype on Mitt, just like you buy in on Media hype on Trump.

You get the government you deserve.

jdinfinity3

You're right Hive. Johnson is Bo, his colours have come through finally.

Wasn't sure before, but him missing the empathy cues in the other post solidified it..

Only someone as sociopathically dense as him wouldn't get that..

martin

Mr J. You seem to know everything so I will ask You one more question. How do You know all of those facts about all of those people ? Boo used to do the same thing .

Mr.Johnson

Mr. Martin, I was not born into it. The “big picture” is understanding that some people have it better off than you or I and that we as individuals are responsible for our destiny. Yes, for some it is just plain luck. But I choose to not focus on what I cannot change but rather on what I can.

None of these people were born into it. They didn’t sit on their hands saying gimme, gimme. They worked hard, took risks and it paid off.

Howard Schultz - Starbucks

Oprah Winfrey - TV Mogul

John Paul DeJoria - Shampoo King

Ralph Lauren - Fashion Giant

Larry Ellison - Oracle co-founder

Snoop Dogg (Ex Drug Dealer) - Rapper

Mark Wahlberg (Ex Drug Dealer) - Movie Star

Celine Dion - Music Icon

Ben Carson - Nero Surgeon

This is America, we live in the land of opportunity not oppression. You reap what you sow. All the people above grew up in worse conditions than you and I. Stop making excuses.

Like the song says...Get Over It.

Hive

Whatever you say, Bo!

martin

Mr. J, ever try looking at the "big picture" and maybe realizing that not everybody is "born into it" or has the chance to do it the old way.

Mr.Johnson

Mr. Hive, My children are adults now. My children’s peers are other hard working people. My children do not live in my basement as so many Bernie supporters do. My children are not looking for free, free, free. They learned early on if you want something that you have to work very hard at it. My children are not a burden on society. My children don’t have student loan debt, because they learned early on to live within their means and not borrowing excessive amounts of money for an education. Trump is not on my cereal box either. I would put my Parents on my cereal box and would imagine my children would feel the same way about my wife and I.

Time for you and others to stop blaming Trump for everything that is wrong in the world...

Lyrics to one of my favorite Eagles songs

I turn on the tube and what do I see

A whole lotta people cryin' "Don't blame me"

They point their crooked little fingers at everybody else

Spend all their time feelin' sorry for themselves

Victim of this, victim of that

Your momma's too thin; your daddy's too fat

Get over it

Get over it

All this whinin' and cryin' and pitchin' a fit

Get over it, get over it

You say you haven't been the same since you had your little crash

But you might feel better if they gave you some cash

The more I think about it, Old Billy was right

Let's kill all the lawyers, kill 'em tonight

You don't want to work; you want to live like a king

But the big, bad world doesn't owe you a thing

Get over it

Get over it

If you don't want to play, then you might as well split

Get over it, get over it

It's like going to confession every time I hear you speak

You're makin' the most of your losin' streak

Some call it sick, but I call it weak

You drag it around like a ball and chain

You wallow in the guilt; you wallow in the pain

You wave it like a flag, you wear it like a crown

Got your mind in the gutter, bringin' everybody down

Complain about the present and blame it on the past

I'd like to find your inner child and kick its little arse

Get over it

Get over it

All this bitchin' and moanin' and pitchin' a fit

Get over it, get over it

Get over it

Get over it

It's gotta stop sometime, so why don't you quit

Get over it, get over it

Get over it

Hive

What has POTUS being attempt to do? Please! Fargin playground bully needs a public slap that hurts big. Our country; our children deserve muich better than we bickerers are giveing them.

Zero Sum is last resort bullroar!

Hive

Mr. Johnson, a Mr. Trump is not on my cereal box. I am praying no one's child emulates him. Guess you prefer Trump to be your children's peer. Poor bastardo!

Mr.Johnson

Mr. Martin, one has to ask...if you like Mitt so much why didn’t you vote for him in 2012. If you , Mr. Hive, Mr. jdinifinity3, Mr Kill and all the other Trump Haters would have voted for Mitt in 2012 we would not be dealing with Trump now. Like Mr. Hive says... you get the government you deserve.

jdinfinity3

Trump can't be or become a dictator when he essentially embodies all the aspects of.

Hive

Got I hate how this site is cast...

I slid right a couple times and learned...especially 9/11 Bush/Cheney scumbags, but this Trump dinger takes the cake...am honestly surprised republican moderates tolerate him.

Gimme a Powell any time...integrity is rare, indeed.

martin

Hive, Am proud to say that I have never voted for a republican. Now, they are for three things, MONEY, MONEY and MONEY. They eat sleep and breathe it. They care about NOBODY. To me there have been republicans that were good people, and Mitt was one of them, and looking back, there were many that were good people, compared to what is going on now.

Hive

Meant to type "Fortune"

How do I do that...? Duh on me!

Hive

Martin, do not get me wrong, I'd vote for Mitt, depending...at least right now...Klobuchar is a lightweigit, to me, and save maybe Bloom, Butt and Wang...the rest are fortion hunters doing old school bullroar...to me.

Hive

I figured even Bo'd be better than Trump...experience is red herring now, and MM, assuming your reference is another who is very self-serving.

IMO, we need a prez who exudes class and, at same time, can ignore "the voices," someone who acts the part.

The dems look very bad, but, to me, a "curbstone setter" mutt is better than the selfish wolff howling like a miner's safety canary in the WH.

martin

Have always liked Mitt. He is the only one who is not afraid of the king and will stand up to him. On the other end there is mitch, who should be ashamed. He is supposed to be working for the USA.

killallthelawyersfirst

Mr. Hive, We are being fooled and most abide it. Most are too lazy to do anything to resist. Mr. Ambrose wrote, The great tool of the administrative state is regulations. Some are necessary, of course, but they should be limited and Congress should review them." The basic question surrounds POTUS views of them and if he tries to thwart these two things. Mr. Hive notes we are what we do...I must add we are mostly what we do alone. The question surrounds POTUS' running a nation as a benefactor or dictator? What is his code for those who work for him, public acts display his inner self. What he does slone, we do not know nor want to know. The public telling is enough and scary. Because of the Senate, Americans must endure more. The questions are essential. How much more and the timing? for this seemingly sleepy nation.

Hive

We being fooled?

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