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Published - Monday, December 22, 2008
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Local car dealer, suppliers watching auto bailout talks

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Butch Walz has sold cars in Winona since 1974, and never imagined that in 2008, his business might depend on the actions of lawmakers in Washington, D.C.

A $14 billion emergency bailout for U.S. automakers collapsed Thursday night in the Senate after the United Auto Workers refused to accede to Republican demands for swift wage cuts.
Walz, whose Winona dealership sells Buick, Pontiac, Chevrolet and GMC vehicles, kept close tabs on the debate. The parent company of his vehicle lines, General Motors, appears in the worst shape of the three automakers: its CEO, Rick Wagoner, has said the company may not last a month without a huge cash infusion.

Supporters of the bridge loan — some call it a bailout — to automakers warn of potential economic catastrophe if one or all of the companies file for bankruptcy. Walz’s dealership employs 40 employees, and it’s one of several Winona-area businesses tied to the American auto industry.

But despite the high stakes for Walz and his business, he said Thursday that lawmakers shouldn’t bail out U.S. automakers without pledges from United Auto Workers and other unions to restructure labor contracts.

“We really need an overhaul,” Walz said. “I don’t think (Congress) can just give us the money.”

The bridge loan is necessary not just for auto manufacturers but for their suppliers, said a spokesman for TRW Automotive, which employs more than 500 at a Winona plant that makes interior-control systems for Chrysler and other automakers. Spokesman John Wilkerson said he can’t predict what will happen to TRW if lawmakers don’t pass the legislation, but warned that a failure by one automaker could extend far beyond a single company.

“If the automakers cannot pay invoices, there could be a large ripple effect of suppliers that also fail,” Wilkerson said.

Rep. Tim Walz, DFL-Minn., was one of just 20 Democrats who voted against the House bill, arguing it wouldn’t prevent automakers from outsourcing jobs and didn’t contain enough protections for taxpayers.
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Troller wrote on Dec 19, 2008 9:02 AM:

" Okay, trickle down economics doesn't work in the liberal world because it's a conservative plan. Trickle down misery works though. So a simple question for my Obama supporting friends. IF putting taxpayer money in the hands of big business is supposed to create trickle down stability in the job market, then should Obama scrap his campaign promise to raise taxes on big business and capital gains? (careful this is a trick question) "

thirdeyeblind wrote on Dec 17, 2008 9:11 PM:

" If the auto manufacturers do not get the government loans, there will be a lot of people in Winona and surrounding communities out of work. This WILL cause a ripple effect! It's bad enough that the Big Three are closing for most of January. Makes me wonder if I'll even GET to go back to work after New Years... Pensions?? Whoever thinks they will not have to work until they die is a fool! What's retirement???? "

graceling wrote on Dec 12, 2008 8:47 PM:

" Regardless of the outcome of the talks, we'll all feel the loss as the Big Three will no longer have their old glory. We need to be a productive economy again that makes quality product & provides competitive service... after all, the world is not coming to an end, but we do need long-term plans, policies & strategies. "

redbridge wrote on Dec 12, 2008 4:36 PM:

" 2 weeks before Christmas.

You will never forget the next 30 days.

Happy Holidays. "

redbridge wrote on Dec 12, 2008 4:33 PM:

" Albertsons grocery, Mervyns department stores, both Alamo and National car rental, BlueBird bus company, Formica and of course, GMAC and Chrysler. These are the people who cannot afford to put their own affairs straight. These are the people you would ask the UAW to 'forgive' their 'promise' of a pension. These uber-rich that demand we pay them outright, or pay for their mismanaged ill-advised decisions when they fold up the last of American manufacturing. "

redbridge wrote on Dec 12, 2008 4:14 PM:

" NewPage - used to be Mead paper - one of the largest paper companies in history.

They own both Remington and Bushmaster now. That pretty well covers automatic weaponry doesn't it? And you thought Obama was a threat to your 2nd amendment rights ... "

redbridge wrote on Dec 12, 2008 4:09 PM:

" I was dumfounded to learn how this group operates. Heard about them through a 'closed paper mill' thread.

Read about Aegis - their mortgage business venture. These are cold people.

Watch the rest of their empire closely. Lots of new names on some of the oldest, most respected names in American commerce. BlueLinx - GeorgiaPacific - probably the largest supplier of building materials on the planet. "

redbridge wrote on Dec 12, 2008 4:03 PM:

" Pensions were a carrot dangled in front of labor during boom times, when autoworkers might have moved off to aerospace, oil or steel professions in Texas, Florida or California.

I find the culprit here to be private equity firms, the latest owners in Detroit. These are money managers, not industry leaders. They are cold-hearted SOBs that are interested in profit not sustainability.

For your country's sake, wiki up Cerberus Capital and choke on just who holds the 'keys' in Detroit. "

redbridge wrote on Dec 12, 2008 3:55 PM:

" Nice, truly balanced explanation of wage differences, tbird.

But you failed to mention that UAW last year already agreed to assume responsibility for retiree healthcare in 2010. This is ignored over and over again.

What concessions are left? Retiree pensions are not really 'present-day-UAW's' to offer, are they? And let us remember that a pension is a promise, corporate's 'word' that they will take care of your retirement. "

tbird wrote on Dec 12, 2008 9:19 AM:

" Failed to pass because UAW would not cut their pay next year...rather have no pay...
He and other Republicans insisted that the carmakers restructure their debt and bring wages and benefits in line with those paid by Toyota, Honda and Nissan in the United States.
Hourly wages for UAW workers at GM factories are about equal to those paid by Toyota Motor Corp. at its older U.S. factories, according to the companies. GM says the average UAW laborer makes $29.78 per hour, while Toyota says it pays about $30 per hour. But the unionized factories have far higher benefit costs.
GM says its total hourly labor costs are now $69, including wages, pensions and health care for active workers, plus the pension and health care costs of more than 432,000 retirees and spouses. Toyota says its total costs are around $48. "


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