El Uno wrote on Sep 30, 2008 11:34 AM:
" Make abortion illegal and watch how many people kill themselves and their babies trying to abort the fetus themselves or down in my home turf of Mexicana.... so people who are anti-abortion are not only baby killers but mother killers as well. WHY DO YOU WANT TO KILL MY MOTHER!?!?!?! "
Former Winona Resident wrote on Sep 29, 2008 9:46 AM:
" Jim - I'm so disappointed in you. You have moved further and further right, but this was outragous.
The issue of abortion is not a political issue, but a personal matter. Whether I'm Catholic (or Christian) or not, is not the issue. You do not have right to tell people who is a good Catholic or not either, by the way. Times change. The church eventually changes (as it has many times) or becomes irrelevant.
Please do not use your column to incite people to vote for 8 more years of misery, just on this issue. Thank you. "
simon wrote on Sep 29, 2008 8:56 AM:
" Do you remember when???
Those days are gone forever.
We have birth control.
Your argument is irrelevant and old.
I remember out houses. Havent used one in 40 years butt I remember them.
Are you thinking the republicans want to take your toilet too???
or just your right to destroy life before it has a chance to object? "
simon wrote on Sep 29, 2008 8:43 AM:
" If not the government, and not the people, then who will give these tiny humans a voice? Who will give them the "power"
Make the decision to have or not have children before you engage. Not after.
Lets end all taking of life starting at the beginning. we have the means. Just not the desire. It is not a political item its a human item. Act like one. "
really? wrote on Sep 28, 2008 10:39 PM:
" Does anyone else remember when abortion was illegal? I remember when people had to leave the country to have the procedure done. Women put their lives at risk in order to make their own decisions about their bodies. The republican base would like to return us to that time, but luckily their "do nothing" government has no intention of ever following through. "
really? wrote on Sep 28, 2008 10:32 PM:
" I am so sick of the Republicans using this issue each election cycle to rile up the base. They've had the last eight years to do something about it, but I don't see that much has changed. If they really wanted to "fix" the problem they would have. In reality, this is only an issue that they like to keep in their pocket. They pull it out an use it as needed. "
BookHound wrote on Sep 27, 2008 3:33 PM:
" It's pretty simple, Simon. The government shouldn't be telling anyone either that they HAVE TO get an abortion, or that they CAN'T. It's a private decision, and needs to remain so. Making it a government issue defeats the idea that people in this country are allowed to have differing ideas, beliefs, and religions. "
simon wrote on Sep 27, 2008 9:52 AM:
" "War is murder"
"The death peanalty is murder"
Abortion is...if the government orders it.
(Like China)
But not if you elect it?
Issues?? Clearly! "
Bubba wrote on Sep 26, 2008 8:54 PM:
" The abuse and torture of basic logic should be enough to send Jim to stand trial in The Hauge. If we start to refer to a clump of cells as a "baby" then we also must refer to those cells' component parts as "babies". Therefore, every time a male masturbates, MILLIONS OF BABIES ARE MURDERED! If you don't like abortion, fine. Don't have one and feel free to use your First Amendment rights to persuade others. But HOW DARE YOU impose your theology on me and undermine my own privacy?! Un-American! "
BookHound wrote on Sep 26, 2008 3:09 PM:
" Simon--I choose to call myself a survivor, not a victim. "Victim" gives my attacker all of the power, which I refuse to do. You'll find that most people who have been raped do prefer "survivor." It's simply more accurate. So thanks, but I've dealt with it just fine. Your post, which I was responding to in my first post, implied that women frequently "cry rape." Actually, rape has a 2% false reporting rate, which is comparable to every other crime according the the DOJ. As far as your references to "uplifting books and new meds," you are in no way qualified to judge my life. Stick to the issues. "
El Uno wrote on Sep 26, 2008 8:17 AM:
" I feel like Jim just aborted some of my brain cells by not warning me he was going to be writing like an inbred hillbilly this week. We should make miscarriages illegal also! "
simon wrote on Sep 25, 2008 11:17 AM:
" Book hound
That is not what I meant and I think you know it. I am sorry you where raped. I am sorry it involved a level of violence so high that you consider yourself a survivor vs. a victim.
It does not change the meaning of my post one bit. You did that yourself. Perhaps if everything you read comes out this way you should stop. Try shutting down the computer, reading uplifting books, or new meds. "
BookHound wrote on Sep 24, 2008 11:05 PM:
" Wow, where to start?
Simon--"Play the rape card??" As a rape survivor, let me assure you it's not REMOTELY "playful."
Drunknonlocalstudent--The father is the ONLY man who shoul get ANY say at all in the decision. Not politicians.
Khanski--Murder IS still murder. War is murder. The death penalty is murder. Don't hear Bush and crew complaining about those.
What's ignored here is the fact that abortion is NOT A GOVERNMENT ISSUE. If we give the government the power to ban abortion, we've also given them the power to FORCE it, like China. The same government that gives $700 billion to bail out bad business decisions, has spent years fighting an immoral war that has killed hundreds of thousands, and can't ensure the health of its own already-born children is going to decide what happens to my uterus? I don't think so!! "
drunknonlocalstudent wrote on Sep 24, 2008 9:24 PM:
" RE: Really?
I like the fact that you think the fathers to the potentially aborted children apparently don't matter.
It takes two people to create the situation, why is it that only one of those people get to make the decision about abortion?
I do realize that the women obviously go through A LOT more in the pregnancy than a man, but that doesn't mean that only the woman should be able to make the decision.
And when does a "piece of tissue" become a human? Because technically, you and I are still just pieces of tissue right now, can your mother still abort you? "
really? wrote on Sep 23, 2008 10:45 PM:
" I just love it when men preach about something that does not and cannot pertain to them. Women have the right to make decisions about their own bodies, because the majority of Americans believe that's how it should be.
My position: all children should be wanted and loved. No one deserves to be born into a situation where they are unwanted. You can't "murder" a small piece of tissue. Because it "could" be doesn't mean it is. "
PerfectStranger wrote on Sep 22, 2008 3:25 PM:
" Jim,
Please just stick to writing about the local looniness. You do a fine job of uncovering the flip side of Winona. There are plenty of local cans of worms to open. Besides, mixing politics with religion and faith usually has the same outcome as putting a match to the fuse on a stick of dynamite. I'm surprised there aren't a hundred comments here. Might that mean more WDN readers are skipping your column now, Jim? "
Old Lady wrote on Sep 21, 2008 3:16 PM:
" I think is time for "Just Jim" to retire again and this time stay retired and spare us. "
Khanski wrote on Sep 19, 2008 3:55 PM:
" Excellent article Jim. Since your retirement as editor, you items have been far more interesting.
In spite of all the rhetoric, murder is still murder. However it is interesting to see the red herrings tossed out. I wonder who was counting all those millions abused, or were they just dreamed up for the sake of your item. "
Just My Opinion wrote on Sep 19, 2008 3:03 PM:
" Hye "The Real World". The document that actually guarantee's us anything is the Constitution and it guarantee's us Life, Liberty and Property. Our founding Fathers were smart enough to realize that they could not guarantee our happiness!!! That's probably why they changed that wording between the Declaration of Independance (which made people happy) and the actual constitution which governs our lives. "
coolerking wrote on Sep 19, 2008 2:21 PM:
" Hey Jimbo,
If you don't believe in abortion then don't have one. You have that choice in this country. The fact that the Catholic Church is still relevant blows my mind. How about the moral sin of sexually abusing over a million children and counting? How about preaching the belief that homosexuals are an abomination of God, even though God made those people just like he made us. How about the moral sin of killing millions of people in the name of Coca-Cola, the United Fruit Company and Jesus?
"What is more immoral? Having an abortion or bringing a child into this world that you don't care about?" John Lydon "
simon wrote on Sep 19, 2008 10:40 AM:
" Simon says political spins are irrelevant. Abortion is science. We now have a complete working knowledge of how pregnancy occurs. We also hold the keys to NOT getting pregant. If you do not want a baby... Then dont. The "perfect world" would have, state of the art abortion clinic in every town staffed with excellant doctors who have nothing to do all day, every day. Because unwanted pregancies are avoidable. Next day service is also available for those who would play the rape card. "
Lydia wrote on Sep 19, 2008 9:51 AM:
" So Jim would like to have seen all of these aborted babies born?? I've also read his articles about not wanting to pay more in taxes. If all of these babies are born, everyone's taxes are going to go up. The moral thing to do would be to make sure these babies have access to health care, special education funding if needed, dental care, affordable housing for parents, a good education, etc. etc. It's not right to bring them into the world when these things are not in place for them. I want to know how many crack babies Jim has adopted? "
The Donald wrote on Sep 19, 2008 9:12 AM:
" Even if you don't have a high regard of Bush's eight years of running the country, give him credit for all of the babies that have been saved. So pay no attention to whatever issues might distract from THE ISSUE. What say you, Winona mayoral candidates? "
The Real World wrote on Sep 19, 2008 7:34 AM:
" American documents guarantee life liberty and pursuit of happiness. Life is protected.
If it were not alive you would not have to kill it. "
MaCat wrote on Sep 19, 2008 3:27 AM:
" We don't know the sources of the estimates for lives lost in wars or abortions performed. We don't know numbers for civilian casualties versus soldiers and we don't know numbers of abortions performed due to commonly acceptable circumstances. But we do know that religion has way too much to do with all of this. We know that trying to force your way of life or your personal morals on others is behind too many of these battles. "
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