cewoodford wrote on Sep 12, 2008 2:34 PM:
" "During the Vietnam War, Senator McCain nearly lost his life in the 1967 USS Forrestal fire. Later that year while on a bombing mission over North Vietnam, he was shot down, badly injured, and captured as a prisoner of war by the North Vietnamese. He was held from 1967 to 1973, experiencing episodes of torture and refusing an out-of-sequence early repatriation offer; his war wounds would leave him with lifelong physical limitations" ----El Uno, THAT to me is service ABOVE AND BEYOND what is expected of the average soldier. You can sit here and mince your words and downplay his sacrifice till the cows come home...the facts are the facts.. My offer( if you care to address it)to meet you at a local establishment to discuss it with real war veterans is still open, otherwise..have a great weekend and enjoy your freedoms... "
El Uno wrote on Sep 11, 2008 11:58 AM:
" wonderful rebuttal... So I'm guessing you're going to write a new entry in your unicorn diary tonight describing the written beat down you gave me on this board over the past few days? "
cewoodford wrote on Sep 11, 2008 10:08 AM:
" Wow...the mentality and train of thought of a Liberal...shocking...So NOW you are infering that being a prisoner of war is standard procedure for every soldier? Well there's no fooling you is there? Again, if you'd like to meet me at the Legion or VFW and discuss with some real life soldiers what exactly THEY condsider to be heroic service I will pick up the tab for as long as you feel comfotable being there. If you're worried your fake i.d. won't get you in, don't sweat it, I know people at both establishments in Winona, and if so desired, I have friends at the Onalaska Legion as well. Have a good day. Enjoy your freedoms. "
El Uno wrote on Sep 10, 2008 2:45 PM:
" Then you have no idea what a soldier's mentality is. Every person at that VFW will tell you that, if captured, you don't talk and you don't leave your brothers behind. So congradulations Senator McCain, you did what you were suppose to do. See my made-up family members are full of useful insight into what a soldier actually goes through and what is expected from each and every individual that puts on that uniform. You talk and tlak about what the veteran's would say but I wager you haven't had a single conversation with one. Shine on. "
cewoodford wrote on Sep 10, 2008 10:29 AM:
" hmmm...well in my eyes, spending time in a Vietnam P.O.W. camp qualifies as " ABOVE AND BEYOND WHAT WOULD BE EXPECTED FROM A NORMAL SOLDIER". If you want to me more defining in your broad sweeping brush of qualifications that'd be great. Better yet, if you want to meet me at the Legion or the VFW and discuss your scope of qualifications with men who have actually been overseas in combat boots, I would be more than happy to pick up the bar and food tab for however long you felt comfortable staying for. have a good day El Uno, enjoy your freedoms. "
El Uno wrote on Sep 10, 2008 8:12 AM:
" ANYTHING ABOVE AND BEYOND WHAT WOULD BE EXPECTED FROM A NORMAL SOLDIER... does it help when I write it in all caps since is the third time I've had to say it. McCain was only there because of who his daddy was so when he denied special treatment I say that puts him back at even with every other soldier in the war... so now what did he do above and beyond? Is he a war hero to you simply because he's a conservative? Is John Kerry a war hero to you? "
cewoodford wrote on Sep 9, 2008 9:22 AM:
" Nothing silly here El Uno, I've compared his actions to that of 2004's Presdiential candidate whom was refered to as a war hero. PLEASE, I implore of you to share your great knoweledge on what exactly constitutes a war hero( becuase obviously in my skewered book, a soldier held for a long period in a pow camp is a war hero, especially when he elects to let others be released before him). WHAT IS YOUR DEFINITION? Is there a body count he needs to attain or is he simply not a war hero because he's a conservative? Please El Uno..Enlighten us dumb conservatives...show us the light "
El Uno wrote on Sep 9, 2008 8:26 AM:
" Oh silly cewoodford, I know how you conservatives like to take conversations in different directions when you have no leg to stand on, so I'll let you ramble and ramble about John Kerry all you want but you still haven't given me anything that says McCain was anymore a war hero than every other soldier that served in the war. If he were Democratic I would cringe everytime the crazy liberals called him a war hero. While we are at it though, did McCain every play baseball in high school? We could add "Sports hero" to his resume as well. Please tell me why he's a war hero and my made up uncle isn't. (He has scars and white hair too) "
cewoodford wrote on Sep 8, 2008 3:38 PM:
" So El Uno....What exactly would make him a "war hero" in your view?Is there a certain death count he needs to attain? What are your qualifications? "
cewoodford wrote on Sep 8, 2008 3:37 PM:
" Because I SOOOO CLEARLY RECALL back in 2003-2004 listening to how much of a "war hero" John Kerry was...which we found to be blatantly false...and Kerry really never did much...except to protest the war when he returned... "
cewoodford wrote on Sep 8, 2008 3:36 PM:
" So, you are saying being a Prisoner of War in Vietnam doesnt qualify you as a war hero? Hmmmm....I'm really confused El Uno...now...If Mr McCain were a Democract running for office would you felel the same way? Hmmm? Answer HONESTLY... You've one nothing but to prove to me once again you are a card-carrying liberla D O L T too wound up in his own political misbeliefs and desires to actually acknowledge what is clearly evident. Enjoy your bliss.... "
El Uno wrote on Sep 8, 2008 1:09 PM:
" see how annoying that is?..... "
El Uno wrote on Sep 8, 2008 11:31 AM:
" If you think passing up the chance to leave early because of what his father did is heroic, then we definitely have different views on the word hero. And sorry but I have other things in my life to worry about than keeping a running record of posts and replies that occur on the WDN message board; but if you'd like you could e-mail transcripts so that I could review them. BUT FACTS ARE FACTS AND YOU RESORTED TO NAME CALLING! I WIN! I WIN! I WIN! I WIN! I WIN! I WIN! I WIN! I WIN! "
El Uno wrote on Sep 8, 2008 11:26 AM:
" ce - please provide something then that shows he was not just a mere grunt soldier... Also, I couldn't care less if you believe in my families service, it's not the issue at all. "
Pilgrim wrote on Sep 6, 2008 5:01 PM:
" CE -- McCain did nothing in captivity his fellow POWs didn't. Furthermore, he crashed three planes before he was shot down -- hardly an ace pilot, this one. Fourth from the bottom in his academy class, medeocre conduct record. The man went to Vietnam like millions of others and acquitted himself with honor, but a hero -- not particularly. "
cewoodford wrote on Sep 5, 2008 12:27 PM:
" Your mere implications that Senator McCain(who in my opinion is a RINO) was just a mere grunt soldier over there and did nothing above the ordinary is such a blatant lie and misrepresentaion of a war veterans service..seriously El Uno, how do you get yourself to believe your own B.S.? Your Veteran father and Uncles? I DO NOT BELIEVE THEY EXIST.. I am calling you out as a LIAR. Have a good day. Enjoy your freedoms..again, thank God there are men braver than you willing to provide them for you... "
cewoodford wrote on Sep 5, 2008 12:22 PM:
" Furthermore El Uno, calling you a Dolt is not name calling. Your past posts, your ideolgy, your baseless claims(lies) made soley on political motivations, not to mention my past drubbings of you on these very boards MORE than QUALIFIES YOU as a DOLT. Go ahead El Uno, look up our past dealings on these boards...time and time again( or post and post again)you clearly prove your Doltness and what I said regarding your qualifications as a Dolt rings true. "
cewoodford wrote on Sep 5, 2008 12:17 PM:
" El Uno my little liberAl friend, John McCain, despite what your imaginary "uncles" say, IS A WAR HERO, again, go down to the VFW or LEgion and ask a few vets there if they think he qualifies... Soldier McCain was offered an early relase by his captors because his father was an Admiral...he chose to stay and let someone else be released..nah...no valor there... The ONLY reason you refuse to accept FACTS and REALITY about Senator McCains war hero status is because he is a dirty evil Republican... "
El Uno wrote on Sep 5, 2008 9:41 AM:
" oh oh!!! and you called me a dolt which according to you is the first sign of a failed argument!! I WIN I WIN I WIN!!!!! Why do you take your conservative name calling tactics and use them to make a puppy cry :) "
El Uno wrote on Sep 5, 2008 9:39 AM:
" forget that last part, I thought you had said he was more qualified than me, not more THAN qualified. I still disagree that POW status makes you a war hero.... hero YES, war hero NO. "
El Uno wrote on Sep 5, 2008 8:11 AM:
" Well I better thank my lucky stars that cewoodford is too busy with making his fortune to bother with me. It's funny that my veteran father and uncles both has expressed the same opinion that just because you serve in a war does not make you a war hero, it cheapens the word for those who did something ABOVE AND BEYOND THE EXPECTATIONS OF A SOLDIER. I do not classify survival as above and beyond. Thank you for also pointing out that McCain is more qualified than I am... I'm glad beating me is part of the criteria of being a war hero. "
cewoodford wrote on Sep 4, 2008 2:56 PM:
" Stuart Levin!!! Thats a PRICELESS MONIKER...I LOVED Stuart Levin this spring in the Tony Rezko federal trials, what a character!!! Drigs, Male prostitutes, Chicago payoffs with puiblic dollars...ahhh, BTW, Tony Rezko was Obamas CHIEF FUNDRAISER as well as Gov Blogadevichs(sp?) and is now sitting in a federal jail awaiting sentencing... Hope...Change..A new day for America...I just LOVE the complete B.S. that comes out of the campaign and mouth of the Democratic candidate for President of the USA.. "
cewoodford wrote on Sep 4, 2008 2:50 PM:
" El Uno, now you disagree that John McCain is a war hero? Really? You're really that shortsighted and blinded by your politics? His P.O.W. status alone MORE than qualifies him as a war hereo you dolt. Why don't you go share your views on qualifications for war hero status to some vets down at the Legion or the VFW and see if they share your opinion. Lucky for you El Uno I am busy making $$$ for the government to confiscate today and I really don't have the time to give you another complete intellectual drubbing/beatdown. Enjoy your freedoms you little coward, don't worry, there are braver men than you willing to provide them for you. Have a good day. "
El Uno wrote on Sep 4, 2008 12:35 PM:
" zman - how exactly is John McCain a war hero? I understand that any person who sacrifices for our country is definitely qualified to be a "hero" but generally when people use the phrase "war hero" it means the soldier did something above and beyond the normal expectations of a soldier. As far as I know, he finished 4th from last in his Naval graduating class, crashed three plans in training, and then was shot down during actual combat.... "
Troller wrote on Sep 3, 2008 3:11 PM:
" Here it is, right out of the bill. Does this even come close to appearing as if Walz is supporting drilling for our own oil? Nope. {Here is a portion of the Walz' approach to OSD. `(c) State Disapproval Authority-
`(1) IN GENERAL- The Secretary may not issue any lease authorizing exploration for, or development of, oil or natural gas in any area of the outer Continental Shelf that is located more than 50 miles and less than 100 miles from the coastline of a State if the State has enacted a law disapproving of the issuance of such leases by the Secretary.} Seems our little Democrats in Washington, are going to allow drilling, so long as there is no drilling any place which might produce oil. Thanks Mark! Good question. "
Troller wrote on Sep 3, 2008 3:07 PM:
" Oh what the heck! Since we're talking politics anyway and the Mark Sommerhauser blog only allows pro Walz, anti Davis posts. Mark has taken some journalistic liberties with his posting of current bills concerning off shore drilling. To answer his question, "is Davis unfair to Walz in his criticism over off shore drilling?" The answer is yes. Walz is passing the buck. It's pretty simple really, either you are for drilling, or against it. But in politics and blogging, you can make it up as you go I guess. I will post the wording, directly copied from the site Mark posted on his blog. Since this is all about big winds and politics, this is on subject for today. "
zman wrote on Sep 3, 2008 1:07 PM:
" This is simply over the top! I cannot express here how livid I am about this idiot and his portrayal of a true war hero like John McCain. Sen. McCain was shot down by the enemy, tortured for 5 years and returned to serve this country anew. Sir, I wonder what you would look like if you were strung up by your elbows for hours on end. This column makes me ill, to think that this moron can cancel out my vote. "
Troller wrote on Sep 3, 2008 6:50 AM:
" Hey there buddy. Is it time to buy some new grapes?
Let the good times roll! "
StuLevin wrote on Sep 3, 2008 4:03 AM:
" Palin may ironically help the US achieve a major Obama goal... energy independence. She could make a new trend fashionable.. for Americans to want to consume MOOSEBURGERS! A recent study argued that cows emit huage amounts of methane daily. Also, moose meat is lower calorie and lower fat than meat from cows. That means cars could go farther on less fuel. So, you get cleaner skies, thinner people and cars that go farther on the same amount of gas!
So, in spite of the fact that until 18 months ago Palin was the mayor of a town smaller than WSU's daily population, I say, so what if she is a heartbeat away from a cancer-prone 72 year old.. vote for her because she is the most likely candidate to get us onto a greener lifestyle. Go Palin ! GO MOOSES! "