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Published - Tuesday, August 19, 2008
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Rocco's Pizza celebrates golden anniversary

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Rocco’s Pizza isn’t the kind of place where they know customers by name so much as it is a place where they know them by order.

Like the guy who orders pizza once a week with three orders of French bread. Or the one customer who orders a cheese pizza with extra, extra, extra sauce (yes, three extras). For that one, the Rocco’s staff has to bake the crust for a few minutes just to make it hold the weight of all the sauce.
Bob Barth, owner of Rocco's Pizza, which turns 50 today, makes a sausage and pepperoni pizza last Wednesday at the Goodview restaurant location. Barth, son of Rocco's founder Tom "Rocco" Barth, doesn't often get into the kitchen to make pizzas like he did when he was just an employee, but he still remembered all the tricks to a classic Rocco's pizza. (photo by Katie Derus/Winona Daily News)

The Hamm’s beer lights that hang by the cash register still shine bright, although the beer has nearly gone the way of Stroh’s, another formerly famous Midwest brew. Heileman’s Old Style lamp fixtures hang over the booths; soda is still sold by the can; and paper plates are the only things thinner than the handmade crust.

None of those things matter, though.

What keeps customers coming back to the two locations is literally no different than what Tom “Rocco” Barth started with 50 years ago today — fresh ingredients and a good recipe. Heck, back then, even the idea of pizza was fresh and new.

“If there is a real secret, it’s the ingredients, not the employees,” said longtime pizza maker Dale Duran. “I probably shouldn’t say that, but it’s true. There are seven or eight of us who make the pizzas, and if it’s done right, it should all come out the same.”

The same pizza — the same homemade “simple dough” and sauce recipe — have been keeping Robert and Jo Ann Franzen of rural Winona County coming to Rocco’s since they moved to the area in 1961. They used to order the supreme pizza with everything, now they’ve cut back a little to just sausage and pepperoni.

“I don’t think I could eat any other kind,” Robert said.

For their 50th wedding anniversary, they had a big meal with all the family and grandkids. Later that night, as dinner approached, Robert couldn’t resist his family’s pleas for the pizza. Ten large pizzas later, the party continued around the dinner table.

Bob Barth, Rocco’s owner and son of the founder, started in what would become the family business when he was small, folding pizza boxes for $1 and “staying out of his father’s way.”

As the business passed from father to son, there were no secrets, no tricks, just doing business the same way. That meant mixing the 600 to 750 pounds of dough Rocco’s goes through weekly. It means dabbing the sausage in the sauce before breaking it up so that it doesn’t stick to your hand. It means swirling the sauce in a circular fashion so it doesn’t clump up. It means making a pizza from dough to box in 12 minutes.

“Skimpy doesn’t get customers coming back, and too much means it’s greasy and that won’t work either,” Barth said.

You can’t get teriyaki chicken or asparagus on your pizza here. No sauerkraut or shrimp. The last time the menu changed was about 15 years ago when Barth created a taco pizza. Before that, it was the addition of pineapple.

It’s not that Rocco’s is trying to be kitschy or trendy by having vintage beer signs or offering pizza in any choice of crust as long as it’s thin. They haven’t changed the pizza. They haven’t changed the ingredients. And, they haven’t had to change customers, either.
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ddolly wrote on Aug 20, 2008 4:06 PM:

" I agree that roccos is some of the best thin crust pizza one can have! Also I am positive that the ingredients are part of it. But anyone who says that the employees have nothing to do with has not eaten there when diffrent employees have been cooking. I dont get how one night it can be the most wonderful thing and then another it will be the worst. My guess has been the crew in the kitchen. Lets give credit to where credit is due. "

lewres99 wrote on Aug 20, 2008 1:37 PM:

" Ugh! And I'm a grammar freak!
It should read "THEIR pizza wasn't good. It was SUPERB!" "

lewres99 wrote on Aug 20, 2008 1:34 PM:

" I've been enjoying Rocco's since moving to the area in '93 to go to SMU. When the whole 2nd floor of Skemp got sick off of Giovanni's sausage pizza one night, I vowed to find a place that could make good pizza. I tried Rocco's. There pizza wasn't good. It was SUPERB! It's hands down my favorite! And while the service isn't always fast, great pizza is worth waiting for. So quit your complaining! Congrats on 50 years! I hope to enjoy your pizza for 50 more years! "

foghorn wrote on Aug 19, 2008 8:41 PM:

" It don't get any better. The guys that have worked there for so long must tell you what kind of owners are there too. It's always familiar faces, some I have know since grade school,that have worked their a long time. What a great family tradition. Rocco's Pizza is the best!! "

DDrazKujo wrote on Aug 19, 2008 7:48 PM:

" Congrats to "Rocco's" Pizza!!! And especially to our old friends, Bob and Tammy!!! We don't get to Winona very often, but, when we do we ALWAYS have to have a Rocco's Pizza!!!! If you two are ever in the Cities, give us a call. I left you a note, Bob, on one of our last recent visits to our hometown. We were at the Athletic Club. Not sure if you got it, but just call the Kujak's in town to get our phone number. Miss you!
Eddie and Danelle "

yarnivek wrote on Aug 19, 2008 5:19 PM:

" Pizza is fine. Service stinks. Last time I ordered a pizza from them I never got it. Which is why it was the last time I ordered from them. "

DDW69 wrote on Aug 19, 2008 11:20 AM:

" Former Winona resident:

Bloedows and Zesto are the two other places my kids always say they miss! I miss Lakeview drive in, too, but it's not the same as it used to be back in the 70s and 80s. Except their root beer. "

Former Winona Resident wrote on Aug 19, 2008 11:03 AM:

" I grew up with Rocco's pizza, too, and though I'm not living in Winona anymore, I still eat it whenever I'm there. It was always the best. Few compare. Their longevity in the business is the proof! When we go to Winona for a visit, it's Bloedows, Zesto, and Rocco's!
Nice to see them receive the honors. "

WIresident wrote on Aug 19, 2008 9:23 AM:

" We own a place that makes pizza and we still like going to the athletic club and getting a Rocco's pizza and a beer. Great Stuff congrats on 50 years. "

Once a Winonan wrote on Aug 19, 2008 6:38 AM:

" Congratulations Bob! I'm sure Rocco is looking down on you with a big smile! He always had that great smile on his face. You have made him proud I'm sure. "

DDW69 wrote on Aug 19, 2008 12:26 AM:

" I grew up in Winona and Rocco's was a favorite. I moved back with my kids 3 years ago for a year and we used to get Rocco's at least twice a month. We have been gone from the area for 2 years now and my kids still talk about how much they miss Rocco's pizza. "

Sherlock wrote on Aug 18, 2008 11:37 PM:

" Hands down, the best pizza in town. "


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