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Published - Friday, July 18, 2008
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School board says DREAMS afterschool program at risk after arbitration ruling

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A Winona school district program aimed at helping elementary students at risk of falling behind in reading and math may be at risk itself.

An arbitrator on Monday sustained a grievance by the Winona Education Association, the union that represents Winona teachers, against the district over pay rates for the Developing Reading Education and Math Skills program. At Thursday’s school board meeting, district officials said the ruling was fair, but the board will have to make a decision about whether to continue the program.
“The administrators will evaluate the DREAMS program and project future costs to determine long-term sustainability and whether a recommendation will be made to continue the program or not,” Pat Blaisdell, district human relations director, told the board.

The arbitrator ruled that the district, if it continues the program, must pay teachers at their regular pay scale, instead of a reduced rate they have received the past few years.

The two sides differ on the economic feasibility of the program with regular pay rates, which would vary between $35 and $65 an hour, depending on a teacher’s pay scale. District financial director Jeff Seeley said the program breaks even at about $25 an hour with the additional state aid it receives for running the program. The arbitrator’s ruling could double the cost of the program, Seeley said.

The WEA insists that the state aid is enough to fully fund the DREAMS program.

“This is a program that speaks to a definite concern in our district of improving success in reading in math, and we have the funding from the state to pay for it,” WEA co-president Bruce Ramsdell said.

The program, developed in the summer of 2002, was originally called the Success in Math And Reading Together program. Teachers were initially paid their regular hourly rate.

In the spring of 2005, the district considered cutting the program after a failed 2004 referendum. Scott Hannon, the district’s director of academic affairs who became coordinator for the SMART program in 2004, asked the WEA to accept a reduced pay rate for SMART teachers. The WEA encouraged teachers to accept the lower rate of pay.

“We made an attempt to work with the district in a difficult financial time,” Ramsdell said. “We knew it was important to do the right thing for the students.”

The district and the WEA differ on the details of that informal agreement. The WEA contends Hannon promised to renew regular pay to teachers after a referendum was successfully passed, which ultimately happened in the fall of 2005. Hannon insisted that he only promised to increaser the rate of pay, not to return it to its previous level. The agreement was not in writing and neither side concedes the point.

The union had also request DREAMS teachers be compensated for not receiving full pay. The arbitrator compromised between the two sides, stating the district must compensate to a pay rate of $25 an hour because the district had offered to pay up to that amount during teacher contract negotiations this year. The total amount of back pay is approximately $5,700, according to Blaisdell.

District officials said the board will likely be asked to decide on the program’s fate in either August or September.

Contact reporter Nolan Rosenkrans at 507-453-3519 or by email at nolan.rosenkrans@lee.net
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Gus wrote on Jul 23, 2008 12:18 PM:

" Didn't I read in either the WDN or the "other" publication that this afterschool program was actually covered by state funding? I'd like to know more about the details of this? Can anyone shed some light? Plus, why is it that everyone thinks teachers should be missionaries. All of these people complaining about whiney, greedy teachers could have chosen to have the same "cushy" jobs!!!!! "

always wondering wrote on Jul 18, 2008 7:27 PM:

" I thought that teachers got paid to teach the kids when the kids are in their classrooms. Now we want to pay them extra for what they are suppose to be doing in the first place. And $25 an hour? I think I'll change jobs and become a teacher :) "

observer wrote on Jul 18, 2008 2:45 PM:

" J.D.
Will you run as a write in candidate for school board? "

J.D. wrote on Jul 18, 2008 1:36 PM:

" I cannot believe that the union is putting $$ ahead of education. The article states that a regular pay rate for teachers is $35-$65/hr. How many of us make that and get summers off? So, even at $25/hr who can say they make that? I think that Bruce Ramsdell is the trouble maker at the school district. Everytime he doesn't get his way, he either files a grievence against the district or goes to the press and whines about it. That is where all the legal fees come from is him! He gets the teachers all worked up over nothing. There are actually some teachers that like to teach and are good at it, but he just has to cause controversy for the district. My vote is to get rid of him and I believe a majority of the problems will go away. "

chameleon wrote on Jul 18, 2008 11:59 AM:

" Well you have one teacher here who is willing to take their place.Where else is a teacher going to make $25 an hour over the summer? I look forward to taking the place of some of these teachers who feel they are not making enough. "

DDW69 wrote on Jul 18, 2008 11:31 AM:

" It would be really sad if they cut this program. My daughter was in DREAMS a few years ago when we lived there and it helped her tremendously. It's sad because the ones here that are going to suffer is the students who really need this program. When my daughter went through it there was only like 1 or 2 actual teachers there and the rest were college students. What happened to back in the day where it wasn't about the money, but about the students? "

El Uno wrote on Jul 18, 2008 11:08 AM:

" I know it will come as a shock to you xfs, but some people are able to make decisions not soley based on money. These teachers go into this profession knowing full well they will never get fairly compensated for the work they do, so I don't think it's a stretch to say that if one group of teachers feel like they need more $ to help these students another group of teachers are ready and willing to step in and take their place "

myepinion wrote on Jul 18, 2008 9:57 AM:

" Some of us are salaried...and we work outside of the 40 hour work week many many weeks a year. Ask me how sorry I feel for teachers who are salaried AND have summer's off. I don't have one single ounce of sympathy. We all do extra programs for our employers when we're salaried. And if your argument xfs would hold a grain of truth...coaches would get paid at regular rate. And they don't. "

Only one voice wrote on Jul 18, 2008 9:37 AM:

" Most employees who work more than full time receive overtime pay--an increased rate of pay. Here, the expectation was that teachers who spent extra hours should work for LESS than their regular pay.
That's ridiculous, isn't it? Their training and expertise are worth a certain amount, but if they go above and beyond their contract, it isn't? How is that fair? "

xfs-123 wrote on Jul 18, 2008 9:13 AM:

" myepinion and Just My Opinion - OK, so YOUR boss comes up to you and says, "I've got this great program to run, it will be O.T. but at a rate less than your normal hourly straight time rate. How many of you are interested?"

Of course we know the two of you will raise your hands and say, "Yes, I will be glad to work O.T. for less than I make straight time!"

Get real!

The district is trying to make the teachers look like the bad guys here because the district lost in arbitration.

An Idea: drop some of the other projects and pay for education instead of the BS they waste money on.

When will Winona learn what is going on? "

Just My Opinion wrote on Jul 18, 2008 8:48 AM:

" I agree with myepinion. Coaches don't get paid at the same rate they are paid to teach. Subs don't get the same rate at the teachers they are re-placing. The union is painting a bad picture for themselves here and risking losing a good program. Here's a new thought - maybe reading and math skills should be taight in the classroom? "

myepinion wrote on Jul 18, 2008 8:04 AM:

" In this case I feel we'd be losing a program because of the teachers who supposedly care rather than the district. This is a supplemental program and should have reduced pay. If they don't like it let the teachers who don't mind run it. "


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