PerfectStranger wrote on Apr 22, 2008 10:35 PM:
" warriorsrock, you haven't actually read most of the comments, have you? If you had, you'd understand that the tattoo itself is only one part of the dialogue. These comments aren't just about someone getting any old tattoo. Some people have brought up very good 'talking points' in these comments, but if you don't read the comments and comprehend them, the entire thing is just lost on you... "
warriorsrock wrote on Apr 22, 2008 10:49 AM:
" If someone getting a tattoo causes this much commotion then might I say we should be damn lucky this is our biggest worry. Maybe we should be more concerned with the "war" or helping flood victims. People, get off your computers and go interfere with someone else's life! "
fozzy bear wrote on Apr 22, 2008 12:33 AM:
" OK we've established that this isn't front page material. I agree with whomever said that it is the biggest thing to happen in winona since WSU bball. Now we got some sconny guy who thinks he's speed racer and likes to drive into churches this is big ladies. "
really? wrote on Apr 21, 2008 10:26 PM:
" Do you think the world is a little too commercial? This generation grew up with corporate sponsorship on everything, so why not take it one step further? The stunt certainly got Winona talking, but did any of you stop in for a beer because of this article?
I don't know how long the bar has been in business, but I'm guessing they are either betting on this student moving away from Winona someday or they'll renig on the agreement when new management takes over. "
PerfectStranger wrote on Apr 21, 2008 10:14 PM:
" Young Vet, I apologize if this sounds rude, but can you read? Here's what I wrote: "...I didn't particularly like the fact that this article ended up on the front page." Where do you see the word 'upset' in my sentence? You just did exactly what I just wrote about in that comment - you 'supersized' what I wrote. You upgraded me to being 'upset' when I am in fact not at all upset. You decided for yourself that I was upset, then you wrote it, which probably made it real in your mind. Just read things as people write them, don't pile on whatever ideas you feel like adding. I cannot believe how many people do that. No, it isn't the biggest issue facing the world today, but it makes me wonder about people... "
really? wrote on Apr 21, 2008 9:54 PM:
" xfs-123 You're so funny!! I don't think I can count how many times you've told me to move to another country, and yet you criticize another for using your same tactics. Perhaps you have some growing up to do as well.
"
Young Vet wrote on Apr 21, 2008 8:54 PM:
" You're upset that it was on the front page? It was on the front page because it was the most important thing that has happened in this dump of town since the WSU Basketball Team won their second championship in three years. That's why it was on the front page. It's not my fault the town sucks..... "
PerfectStranger wrote on Apr 21, 2008 6:06 PM:
" I see that yet another person [WSU7373] thinks respondents here need to "chill out". I laugh every time I see that over-used, meaningless expression. It is an empty comment uttered by people who are too lazy to think of anything intelligent to say or write. It amuses me how many people think I am against tattoos, or against drinking, or against college students, simply because I didn't particularly like the fact that this article ended up on the front page. People read so much more into a comment than is actually there. Then they tell people to move elsewhere, or to "chill out". Whatever. "
xfs-123 wrote on Apr 21, 2008 3:04 PM:
" lewiston: Can I assume you and tat boy are the same age? If the best you can offer is telling the residents of Winona to move out if we don't like what happens in our town, I think you have a lot growing up to do.
While the universities employ a number of my friends, I think you overplay the positive role some of the students have on our community.
On the other hand, I don't see a problem with this guy's tat or the bar that it promotes. It just ain't the end of the world folks. Lotta kids in the Navy his age getting tats for basically the same reason: peer pressure. "
Big D wrote on Apr 21, 2008 1:18 PM:
" Nice job Wes. Have one for me. "
WSU7373 wrote on Apr 21, 2008 10:37 AM:
" This was not Engo's idea - or anyone at mulligan's for that matter. Wes' roommates egged him on and he is not the type to back down. This was not an advertising ploy but so what if he gets a few tap beers. The bartenders at mulligan's know when to stop serving him - and everyone else - so people need to chill out. "
warriorsrock wrote on Apr 20, 2008 9:31 PM:
" " We reserve the right not to post reader comments containing racial, religious or personal attacks..."
Please, WDN, what are all these comments then?
Wes gave you a story, in fact a front page story. He allowed you to place his name, in your newspaper, to fill a space readers pay you for.
Since he is the one who made you your money; at least, have the decency to keep slander, profanity and personal attacks made towards him, off this page! "
The Ultimate Hustler wrote on Apr 19, 2008 5:28 PM:
" He's less of a typical college student and more of a typical business major "
warriorsrock wrote on Apr 19, 2008 4:18 PM:
" Guess what? It's not your butt so what do you care? Maybe you all should be more worried about the drunken man who ran into a sledder or the local townies who sell drugs to us "typical" college kids. We as college students work hard all week long trying to make this town and this world better for all of you adults who haven't done anything with your life. The weekend is our time to unwind and let loose, be thankful we are smart enough not to walk down to the river like the other schools who are as close to open water as Winona is. "
warriorsrock wrote on Apr 19, 2008 4:12 PM:
" Are you kidding me people? Lighten up. No one thought Wes would get the tattoo when Dan proposed it. You have all been young one, you have all made bets and have those moments when you want to live life fearlessly. It was a bet, a joke, not a publicity stunt or obscene gesture!! It's his ass and not yours, so what do you care? To all you vocal, up tight, 'think I am always right' people, GET OVER IT!! For once in the paper don't you want to read of something that will make you laugh instead of remind you how crime filled the world can be?! Lighten up and take a joke, it's not your ass so why should you care!!!! "
PerfectStranger wrote on Apr 19, 2008 3:47 PM:
" Lewiston, I never wrote anything about expecting people in Winona to stop drinking, in bars or anywhere. Why did you declare that I should let people live their own lives? Who says I don't? Where did you read that I do otherwise? Please point it out to me. In your next comment you tell me to "...deal with it and shut my mouth for once." That is extremely rude and absolutely unacceptable in a PUBLIC FORUM, where nobody has a right to tell someone else to not share. I have the same right to comment here as you do, so get off your high horse - and don't put words in my mouth again. You can comment on what I write, but NOT on what I DON'T write. "
lewiston wrote on Apr 19, 2008 11:22 AM:
" So yes there is binge drinking and parties but if you dont like it move out of Winona because if it was not for WSU and St. Mary's there would be no Winona... So deal with it and shut your mouth for once! you always have to be b*tching about something.... "
lewiston wrote on Apr 19, 2008 11:21 AM:
" Ill agree with fozzy bear. The bars in town use to be packed. Now when you walk in you just see people sitting at the bar and its wide open even on a fri and sat... You just have to come to the grip its a college town and people are going to drink they are not your kids perfect stranger so let them do what they want its there lives not yours! Last time I checked there has not really been any issues in Winona with deaths like LaCrosse. Or accidents for that matter. People that go downtown in Winona for the most part walk or have a driver.... "
fozzy bear wrote on Apr 19, 2008 11:07 AM:
" Ok i get your point, but drinking in Winona has gone down drastically. I am a manager at one of the popular bars downtown, and I have seen the business go from wall to wall people. Now it's nowhere near that and it sucks people need that job as a form of living not just fun. Drinking in this town is on a heavy decline in the past two years, and i'm pretty sure it will keep going down. "
PerfectStranger wrote on Apr 19, 2008 10:48 AM:
" Lewiston, the issue here is more than "...just a tattoo." I am not against tattoos. I am not against publicity stunts, unless they are dangerous. No, I do not think that an article like this will lead to binge drinking, underage drinking, etc., but I don't like the promotion of an alcohol-related 'stunt' when it runs counter to the concerns this community already has regarding alcohol abuse, especially regarding the colleges. In my opinion the editors of the WDN should consider how it looks to send mixed messages - "Yes, the alcohol issue is serious", or "Hey everyone, check out the latest in beer drinkin' fun and frivolity!" Does our society have issues with drinking, or is it all one big joke? Which is it? "
PerfectStranger wrote on Apr 19, 2008 10:31 AM:
" Fozzy Bear, you did not get attacked for voicing your opinion. I replied to comments you made which directly implied that certain other people (like me) needed to chill out, get a sense of humor, etc. My response (not an attack) was appropriate. I have no intention of suggesting that you need to get a life, or change your sense of humor. You shouldn't imply that I need to. Okay? "
lewiston wrote on Apr 19, 2008 10:22 AM:
" Seriously people its just a F*ing tattoo... I am really really good friends with Wes and if any of you knew him thats what he does. It was for fun. And to be honest yes he drinks but he dont go out and get plastered everynight.. For those of you that must know. It was for Engo to show his appreciation of his support for WSU and helping us out in Springfield. He has done alot for us and the university so im thinking Wes thought this would be a cool way to thank him... So lets all talk about other issues then a person getting a tattoo.... "
fozzy bear wrote on Apr 19, 2008 10:19 AM:
" You just can't write anything on these boards without getting harrased by one of Winonas pristine residents. You know without Winona State and all it's students this town would be absolute (insert explitive word here). What would WDN have to report about? The Wilkie, and how it's never ever gonna move or demolished. Nothing like recycling old news. "
fozzy bear wrote on Apr 19, 2008 10:13 AM:
" Wow now i get attacked for voicing my opinion "
PerfectStranger wrote on Apr 19, 2008 9:40 AM:
" Fozzy Bear, thank you for sharing your opinion, but don't tell me to grow up, I am grown up. That's why I feel the way I do about this article. Don't tell me to get a sense of humor, I already have one. Don't tell me to chill out, I'm not having an attack, I'm just airing my opinion, as you did. You have now stated your differences of opinion. Just don't tell me to change my actions to suit you. I won't do it. "
fozzy bear wrote on Apr 19, 2008 8:22 AM:
" Would you people just grow up and realize that this just something stupid just to get attention. It's not promoting binge drinking. It's not promoting drinking and driving. It's just meant to be funny to the readers of the WDN. I give you the fact that it's probably not front page material, but it is now give it up. Next thing you know somebody's gonna come out and say that it promotes racism even though it has nothing to do with race at all. Winona GET A SENSE OF HUMOR, AND CHILL OUT. "
Me wrote on Apr 19, 2008 7:16 AM:
" I dunno Jerome, I've seen your butt (with pants on....not that I was looking directly at your butt or for that matter, intentionally) and think you could get a tattoo or 50 on it :) "
burrows1968 wrote on Apr 18, 2008 10:07 PM:
" A fun story. Good job WDN. What college student in the last 100 years has not had some fun doing something that they will mildly regret 10 years later (when he has it removed). Another example of this town not having a sense of humor is the ridicule of this story. God, I'm glad I did not grow up here! "
masshole2602 wrote on Apr 18, 2008 7:39 PM:
" .....Hey Wes: Skin it! Skin that smoke wagon and see what happens!" "
masshole2602 wrote on Apr 18, 2008 7:35 PM:
" Must feel REALLY empowering making comments about someone you do NOT have any information on. Weston is a WONDERFUL kid who likes doing things SPONTANEOUSLY! He likes to LIVE life. His $10K spent on college is WELL spent; he is an "A" student! He knows when to study and when to let his hair down! So when some of you feel the need to criticize his 'living life to the fullest while he is young', pack up those skeletons hiding in your closet and crawl back into your bibles! "
PerfectStranger wrote on Apr 18, 2008 7:30 PM:
" It is not 'news', even if people are talking and commenting about it. I would categorize it as 'entertainment', but of a cheap somewhat exploitative variety. I disagree with this being on the front page, but I didn't say it shouldn't be in the paper at all, that would be censorship. I do know that the editorial staff at a newspaper have the power to decide what is printed and where it is positioned. I would like to know where the WDN editors and publisher stand on the subject of alcohol use and abuse. Their position seems fluid - present alcohol issues as gravely troubling one day, then toss it out as laugh-riot entertainment the next. A news outlet really ought to make a commitment to one position, and make all other decisions accordingly. This is just my opinion... "
Honeyfox wrote on Apr 18, 2008 5:02 PM:
" #%$@%$^%$^%$&^*^&*!!!!!!!!!!!!!...Show this STUPID,ASININE:
"1 : extremely or utterly foolish
2 : of, relating to, or resembling an ass" article to his parents(when he is found dead from alcohol poisoning!)...or any other parents of child who has died because of an alcohol related death! Disgusting WDN!!!! I'm ashamed you are Winona's newspaper! "
Traubert wrote on Apr 18, 2008 4:45 PM:
" WDN readers amaze me with their simplicity. Do you really think that running a story about someone doing something stupid is equivalent to an endorsement of binge drinking? Do you read stories about rapists as an endorsement for rape? I think most readers are intelligent enough to see this for what it is and to think for themselves. And those who say this is not news, what do you think people are talking about today? "
shop/ebay wrote on Apr 18, 2008 3:14 PM:
" The kid and the situation is dumb enough,
but I can't beleive the WDN is actually promoting binge drinking on the front page. "
leone w wrote on Apr 18, 2008 2:41 PM:
" hey the bear is right it is Friday time for all you can drink specials, though Westin doesn't have to worry, it's free for life!
So are the hangovers and the police who will be tailing his car each night from Mulligans. "
TheBear wrote on Apr 18, 2008 2:19 PM:
" Jeez, relax everyone, the only person this guy is hurting right now is himself and his poor buttocks. Lets give this kid a break until he actually does something wrong, eh? Chill out everyone, it's Friday for crying out loud!
"
PerfectStranger wrote on Apr 18, 2008 2:09 PM:
" What I write is meaningful regardless of what you think. You don't like to be criticized for anything, then you hand out criticizm as you please - a typical hypocrite. "
WSU Alum wrote on Apr 18, 2008 1:44 PM:
" Plan A = Try to say something meaningful.
Plan B = When all else fails find grammar mistakes.
"
WSU Alum wrote on Apr 18, 2008 1:34 PM:
" Thanks professor "
PerfectStranger wrote on Apr 18, 2008 1:30 PM:
" Whatever. By the way, while at WSU you really should have learned to spell the word 'hypocrite' correctly. "
WSU Alum wrote on Apr 18, 2008 1:14 PM:
" Me having a user name does not make he a hipocrite at all. In my prior post I was trying to portray the message that it is easy to point fingers and pretend that you have never done anything questionable in your life when no one truely knows who you are. If I were critical of this young man's decision then that would make me a hipocrite but since I'm not I'll leave the judgemental comments to people like yourself. "
PerfectStranger wrote on Apr 18, 2008 12:33 PM:
" WSU Alum, does your driver's license show your name as "WSU Alum" or are you just being a hypocrite when you accuse others of "...hiding behind a username..."? The comments here are DESIGNED this way. We each select a username, just as you did. What makes you higher and mightier than the rest of us? "
drunknonlocalstudent wrote on Apr 18, 2008 12:33 PM:
" hmm...20 comments on this, and only 3 comments on the jailer not getting any jail time for soliciting a minor. good to see that you all have your priorities straight. this is definately a better thing to get worked up about than a pedofile getting let off with no real punishment.
good job Winona. "
jackson wrote on Apr 18, 2008 11:22 AM:
" Monster, I hope you are right about the limit. I don't know, call me old fashion (and I do have 2 tattoos), but to me this isn't a way to advertise. To me, it is just plain stupid, but that is just my opinion. Hey, have a good day. Maybe spring will come back tomorrow! We can only hope so anyway. "
TheMonster wrote on Apr 18, 2008 11:01 AM:
" You know what ostriches do? They stick their heads in the sand. And apparently, so do the readers here. This is a growing form of marketing (ever heard of GoldenPalace.com?) and it's designed to get publicity in this exact form, from the media. Because in all honesty, it's ridiculous that anyone would tattoo a brand/business on them anywhere. And that makes it story-worthy.
I'm sure Mulligan's considered the legal ramifications and put a stipulation (i.e. no more than 4 beers per visit) on it. "
jackson wrote on Apr 18, 2008 10:55 AM:
" Truly not the kind of advertisement I would want, free of not. To me, it just proves that whomever runs Mulligans has no class. A good Irish bar shouldn't need that kind of advertisement. To me, any bar that says that they will give free beer for life is in desparate need of something, and like I said, it opens them up for a good lawsuit should anything happen because of this guy. Sorry, wouldn't want a bar's name on my butt! "
cewoodford wrote on Apr 18, 2008 10:55 AM:
" Further promoting the WSU five day drink week...
"
WSU Alum wrote on Apr 18, 2008 10:46 AM:
" Oh wait, maybe this article is free advertisement...DUH "
jackson wrote on Apr 18, 2008 10:41 AM:
" Free advertising, what is he going to do run around either with a G-string or just plain naked to show the advertisement. Oh wait, I suppose he could start mooning people. Oh yeah, thats it. Free advertising where it can't be seen. Maybe he should have gotten it on his arm. DUH "
TheMonster wrote on Apr 18, 2008 10:32 AM:
" This is me doing an impression of most of these commenters, 'Oh my God! This story is going to rain down the fires of hell upon us! A kid got a tattoo and now gets free beer, our lives are over!'
And, scene. What did you think? "
WSU Alum wrote on Apr 18, 2008 10:19 AM:
" Since when is a 21 year old man not able to make his own decisions. Lucky for Weston he has all of these WDN blogists attempting to act as his moral compass while hiding behind a username and a computer screen pretending to have never done anything questionable in their lives. And the best kind of advertising is free, way to go Mulligans! "
PerfectStranger wrote on Apr 18, 2008 10:09 AM:
" OldMill, if it gets old reading these comments all the time, then stop reading them. How hard can that be to comprehend? "
Jerome Christenson, WDN Online Editor wrote on Apr 18, 2008 10:08 AM:
" To Me: Not a chance ... too many bars, not enough butt. "
OldMillXxX wrote on Apr 18, 2008 9:58 AM:
" Wah! It is on the first page because it is news. Not every story has to be about child abuse, rape or murder. The kid is of legal drinking age and the pub still has the right to cut him off before he is too drunk to function. At least let people attempt to be responsible before bashing. It gets old reading these comments all the time. "
jackson wrote on Apr 18, 2008 9:53 AM:
" I meant the WDN WAS promoting drinking. "
jackson wrote on Apr 18, 2008 9:52 AM:
" Free beer for being stupid. First off Weston looks like a big baby. It doesn't hurt that bad to get a tattoo, and yes I have experience. Secondly, so when he hits someone and injures or kills them because he has had too much to drink, is the bar going to be held liable for giving him free beer. Mulligans, I think you have set yourself up for a lawsuit in the future. Sorry, not my idea of headline news. I knew there was a reason we canceled our subscription. WND is not promoting drinking. Bad news for a local newspaper. "
PerfectStranger wrote on Apr 18, 2008 9:12 AM:
" Why is this on the front page? I seriously question the judgement of the WDN staff members who decided to put this self-promoting stunt in the middle of the front page of their NEWSpaper. Who called the WDN to ask for this publicity? The owner of the bar? The owner of the tattoo parlor? The WSU students themselves? This only further cheapens an already cheap rag... "
Hot Rod Otis wrote on Apr 18, 2008 8:20 AM:
" Way to promote the drunken college kid stereotype. "
winona88 wrote on Apr 18, 2008 7:44 AM:
" Alcoholics Anonymous tattooed on his right cheek will be his next piece of artwork. Way to put that 10K a year to use Weston. "
leone w wrote on Apr 18, 2008 7:37 AM:
" you have got to be kidding, what example does this set for the students in the "newspaper in the classroom" program. bad stuff happens that has to be reported but idiots like this don't! "
Me wrote on Apr 18, 2008 7:01 AM:
" poor taste WDN---If the kid drinks himself to death, the cops will be able to roll him over and check his butt for the tattoo and then give him a name. Just hope the bar doesn't go out of business. I wonder if Jerome will be getting his back side branded too? "
shop/ebay wrote on Apr 18, 2008 6:47 AM:
" Extremely bad taste even for the Winona Daily news.
"
happyneighbor wrote on Apr 18, 2008 6:06 AM:
" maybe a local auto dealership will give him a car for another strategically placed tattoo - then he can drink AND drive. "
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