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Published - Thursday, January 31, 2008
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Winona, don’t fence us in

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Here’s a message to the city of Winona: Don’t chicken out.

We mean that quite literally. Don’t put more restrictive ordinances in place, don’t form special task forces, don’t waste too much time worrying about chickens or other smaller critters in the city.
Last week, Winona learned that several houses — here and there — may still keep a few chickens. Some city residents don’t like feeling like they’re out in the country and have complained. Not scores of people, mind you, just a couple, mostly anonymously to a city council member.

From there, the issue has been brought to the entire council: What to do with chickens?

The council ultimately sent the issue back to the planning commission, which will examine the issue more closely and consider any revisions to the city ordinances.

But save for a few uppity neighbors, does this really need strict enforcement or tight regulations?

We agree there shouldn’t be a chicken farm in every backyard and that some minimal regulation is necessary. However, we also think residents should have the right to keep a couple of chickens, if they want. And the price of chicken isn’t getting any cheaper. And for a city that wants to embrace good “green” practices, letting people produce food a little closer to home seems to — well, excuse the mixed metaphors here — dovetail well with other ongoing programs.

Besides, chickens cause a lot fewer headaches than stray, unwanted dogs and cats.

It’s a good thing to periodically reexamine the city’s ordinances. But city leaders should also be careful that the complaints of a few disgruntled neighbors don’t push council members into making a hasty or overbearing decision. After all, this is still Winona and we should cherish our agricultural and somewhat rural roots.

Many old-timers around Winona remember fondly when there was such a thing as “the hog line.” The hog line ran down Mankato Avenue — any property to the east of it could keep pigs.

Let’s hope Winona doesn’t enact a “chicken line” and decide to draw it around the entire city limits.

Ehrlick writes on behalf of the Winona Daily News editorial board, which also includes publisher Rusty Cunningham and online editor Jerome Christenson. To comment, call (507) 453-3507 or send e-mail to letters@winonadailynews.com.
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    JustCannotResist wrote on Jan 31, 2008 4:49 PM:

    " Chickens are dirty creatures, I would not want my city neighbor to own them, at least not outside. But, if you want to keep them penned up inside and wallow in their feather dust and muck, go right ahead. Why should the city care? "

    J.D. wrote on Jan 31, 2008 4:39 PM:

    " Lostgirl ~ your ignorance is showing. Please re-read my post. I said this is a farming community. If you go less than 5 miles, in any direction, from Winona, you will encounter a farm, thus a farming community. You obviously haven't been around Winona long enough to know that people have kept chickens around since Winona became a town.Now, you are probably a city girl and think anything other than a dog or cat can't be a tame animal, but you are wrong, and we are just talking about chickens, not cows, horses etc...
    And if Winona is so boring and old fashioned, leave, the chickens won't stop you on your way out of town. "

    Demosthenes wrote on Jan 31, 2008 4:16 PM:

    " LostGirl, there's a key reason people keep chickens in Winona. Eggs aren't all that cheap, and it's cheaper to get them straight from the chicken (feed is still relatively cheap). Another reason, land in Winona county has become outrageously expensive. Values have doubled in the past couple years, from $2k to $4k. There is nothing wrong with chickens in Winona. They aren't hurting anyone, and the only time chickens make any noise is during the daytime (when the majority of winonans aren't even home). Banning chickens, what's next...potbellied pigs? Cats? Dogs? Pretty soon, there won't be any pets in winona. "

    LostGirl wrote on Jan 31, 2008 3:57 PM:

    " JD: I don't recall mentioning anywhere that I thought there was something 'wrong' with chickens. I do however, think it is STUPID to have a chicken as a pet. And no, Winona is not considered 'farmland' where chickens can roam free. Farming doesn't involve city streets, stop lights, banks, and historic buildings. Keep it out of the city and where it belongs. "

    Troller wrote on Jan 31, 2008 3:23 PM:

    " Actually JD we had a couple of pet pigs too. One was too ornery with men, but loved kids. The other had a zeal for life which could only be described as extraordinary. Both where house broke, loved to bath, and very well behaved. Either pig could best any of our dogs in a brain for brain task. In town, they would probably less intrusive than even chickens and certainly more than dogs or cats. You may have pigs for neighbors and not even know it. (CTRock excluded) "

    Troller wrote on Jan 31, 2008 2:32 PM:

    " Who the heck slows down for chickens? They don't even slow down for pedestrians in this town! I had 28 beautiful chickens until somebody "dropped of a dog" for a nice home in the country. I wasn't home and when I got back, all my chickens were dead. But hey, I know from experience, if there's a chicken in the road just close your eyes and go l like hell! They can move pretty damn fast when the need arises. "

    J.D. wrote on Jan 31, 2008 1:49 PM:

    " Ok, disregarding the little tiff between "get things right" and "PerfectStranger", and getting back to chickens, why can't we have chickens in the city? Lost girl, what's wrong with a chicken? Ever go to KFC? I recall an article about a girl who keeps a pig in her house, I would rather have a chicken roaming around than a pig. As long as they are properly taken care of, there is absolutely no reason to not be able to have chickens as pets. If this was MPLS or Chicago, I would say that they shouldn't be in the City, but this is a rural MN farming community, why not?
    All this is is another form of our local government trying to tell us what to do. What's next, no dogs or cats? "

    PerfectStranger wrote on Jan 31, 2008 12:10 PM:

    " You assume a great deal, don't you 'get things right'? You are way too uppity. Yes, I DID read the rest of your comment - and it did not pertain to my original comment about roosters. I didn't think I had any reason whatsoever to inform you that I had read your entire comment. I also don't think you absolutely HAD to point anything out to the 'city folk'. Are you the Grand Master editor of everyone's comments? Do you think nobody but yourself is capable of 'getting things right'? Do you feel a constant, desperate urge to teach EVERYONE about EVERYTHING? I don't assume every reader is ignorant... "

    get things right wrote on Jan 31, 2008 11:38 AM:

    " I do have a question. If chickens become allowed in the city; what about turkeys? They lay bigger and better eggs than chickens. And are bigger birds for feeding the family. Just wondering, I'd rather raise turkeys. "

    get things right wrote on Jan 31, 2008 11:28 AM:

    " Perfect, did you bother to read anything else I wrote? Or just the first sentence? And I know many city people that think roosters only crow at sun rise, so don't assume that everyone knows they crow all day. And try reading what else I wrote. "

    LostGirl wrote on Jan 31, 2008 11:26 AM:

    " That is why if you want to keep chickens, you move out to the country or on a farm away from civilization. People are going to complain, and why shouldn't they? They're not MEANT to be in the city. "

    PerfectStranger wrote on Jan 31, 2008 10:39 AM:

    " 'get thing right', I actually know that roosters crow all day. My comment was a combination of personal experience (roosters that awoke us each morning, but crowed infrequesntly thereafter) and the commercial currently on TV that mentions the rooster going blind. Maybe you shouldn't concern yourself so much about other people 'getting things right' - maybe they already know, but they have a reason for writing things as they do. Sometimes a correction isn't needed, and maybe you should learn to recognize when to keep something to yourself... "

    get things right wrote on Jan 31, 2008 10:31 AM:

    " Roosters crow all day, not just at sun rise. But that aside, I have seen chickens running in my neighborhood and it only caused problems for the cars slowing down trying to not hit them. I really don't see anything wrong with keeping them, as long as the pens keep them in and are clean. "

    american mutt wrote on Jan 31, 2008 10:21 AM:

    " I believe the popularity on this also stems to the point of how much are we going to let governing bodies in to dictate our personal choices and our private places. I say if they don't like it they can get out of my yard eh? eh? "

    PerfectStranger wrote on Jan 31, 2008 9:23 AM:

    " Some people are just too chicken to give their names when they complain about chickens. I'd love to have roosters in town - I love waking up to a rooster's crow, unless the rooster is blind... "

    The Donald wrote on Jan 31, 2008 9:13 AM:

    " Prohibiting chickens in town will surely lead to banning home based auto salvage junk yards. No respect for Winona's traditional values anymore! "

    LostGirl wrote on Jan 31, 2008 8:45 AM:

    " Who keeps chickens in their backyard these days? And WHY ..is this such a popular topic among the WDN.. Just another example of how boring and old-fashioned Winona is. Get with the century. It's 2008 and we're worrying about chickens? Sorry but I have to laugh.. "

    Troller wrote on Jan 31, 2008 7:22 AM:

    " Darrell, I couldn't agree more. Unfortunately, a "hasty or overbearing decision" to satisfy a few disgruntled citizens is pretty much what government has become from the local level all the way to top in Washington. To paraphrase Barney Fife," let them have chickens, and tomorrow it's pigs, let them keep pigs and tomorrow it's cows, let them keep cows and tomorrow it's cornfields, next thing ya know, we're all living in the country!" Barney was a poster child for bureaucrats everywhere. They may be entertaining to watch but they're no fun to live with.

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