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Published - Wednesday, January 16, 2008
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Watershed group seeks debris removal

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STOCKTON, Minn. — After the floods destroyed three streams on their property, Barb and Martin Nelson didn’t wait for the government to rebuild them.

The August floods triggered mudslides on their
28-acre property near Lewiston, washing out three tributaries to Peterson Creek. The land — once used for gardening and grazing ponies — now was either washed away or in total disarray, Barb Nelson said.

“Water was running through my barn. We had to do something,” Nelson said.

So the couple forked over more than $13,000 to rebuild the creeks in the weeks after the flood. Martin Nelson did much of the heavy equipment work himself.

State officials pledged reimbursement for those expenditures, plus disposal of the mountain of woody debris they collected during the cleanup.

Neither has happened yet.

“I’m really hoping we see something back” in reimbursement for the cleanup, Barb Nelson said.

The couple’s impatience reflected the sentiments of others in the Stockton-Rollingstone-Minnesota City Watershed District at a meeting Tuesday night at Stockton City Hall.

The group — which has existed for decades — began to attract renewed interest in October after the floods, particularly from residents in the Garvin Brook Watershed. That watershed covers 48 square miles from Lewiston to the Mississippi River.

Healthy attendance has marked each meeting since, members told the Daily News on Tuesday night. Some of those in attendance were selected for a steering committee to guide post-flood recovery for the group, which can levy tax or leverage state and federal funding.

In the short term, the group is pushing for debris removal and stream-bank reconstruction on properties within the watershed.

For the Nelsons and others such as Willie Wehlage, that’s a time-sensitive concern.

Wehlage worries that a quick spring thaw could trigger more floods. And this time, old stream banks won’t necessarily be in place to contain the waters, he said.

Winona County recently received $130,000 in state funds to conduct such projects, said County Water Planner Pat Bailey.

Bailey said she expects the county to establish priorities for disbursing the funds “as soon as possible.” More funds from other state and federal sources also may be on the way, Bailey said.

The group’s long-term goal is to examine building dams or spillways on tributaries to Garvin Brook upstream from Stockton.

The National Resources Conservation Service should complete a cost-benefit study of the project by May, a spokesperson said Tuesday.

That study must find a positive cost-benefit ratio for the group to seek federal funds for the project.

Representatives for Sen. Amy Klobuchar and Rep. Tim Walz attended Tuesday night’s meeting.
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Demosthenes wrote on Jan 16, 2008 11:11 PM:

" They wouldn't be a dam or spillway if they weren't in the waterway. They could build dikes to keep the soil from getting to the stream, but they cannot put it in the stream or change the course. "

stocktonite wrote on Jan 16, 2008 4:41 PM:

" These structures I refer to are the works of what used to be called the SCS - Soil Conservation Service albeit probably with a newer name now.

These are never in the actual flowing waterway but sometimes are as near as a few thousand feet to the stream and as far as some times a few miles fron the actual stream.

Their sole purpose to slow and/or contain surface run off well before it acually gets to the flowing stream.

A quick drive through many of the trout stream valleys here in south eastern MN will allow you to see many of these structures and as you will see all they do is mitgate and control run off BEFORE it enters the trout stream. "

CT Rock wrote on Jan 16, 2008 1:01 PM:

" who cares. meh. "

Sonny wrote on Jan 16, 2008 11:24 AM:

" Actually I know a landowner who was told by the DNR to do whatever they had to to the trout stream and bed that run through his property. This was in relation to cleaning up the mess after the flood. The DNR said there was no way they had the time or money to work on it. "

Demosthenes wrote on Jan 16, 2008 9:21 AM:

" Actually Stocktonite, it is illegal to put ANY structure into a designated trout stream. It doesn't make a difference if it's private or public land. I have a trout stream running through my property, and I cannot do a single thing to it. I can't change the course of it, I cant add rocks to it, I can't dump dirt in it, I can't add trees to it, I can't even build a pond that uses the water to water my cattle! Putting in a dam or spillway blocks the trout's movement, and cuts some of their habitat away, which is what the DNR is trying to protect, so it is highly unlikely that the DNR will allow them to be built. "

stocktonite wrote on Jan 16, 2008 2:07 AM:

" I beleive the dams and spillways being talked about while in the Garvin Brook watershed would not have anything to do with "trout stream" stream restrictions.

What most likely is talked about would be additional water retention flood mitigation structures similar to the various ones already protecting some parts of the watershed.

Many parts of the watershed both private and public land could benefit from such structures and they would have no more impact on the trout strema than the ones allready in existance.

The real issue here is wether or not the Watershed govering board has enough desire to force construction on both private and public lands where the property owners - both private ownership or state agencies have not been to interested in getting involved in these type of projects for what ever reason
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Demosthenes wrote on Jan 16, 2008 12:51 AM:

" Dams or spillways on Garvin Brook? Garvin Brook is a designated trout stream, which makes it virtually impossible to do ANYthing to it. It takes 3 years of cutting through red tape just to get the permits for Trout Unlimited and the DNR to improve the trout habitat, there's no way that spillways or dams will be allowed to be built. Chances are, what Mr. Nelso did was illegal, because it is illegal to mess with a trout stream in any way. It's illegal to drive machinery THROUGH the creek without a designated easment. Trout streams are the most protected parts of SE MN, and there is no chance dams or spillways will be allowed to be put in. "


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