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Published - Saturday, March 03, 2007
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These teenage misfits hit a new low

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A Cloquet, Minn., teenager told police that he found it so funny when he dumped a pitcher of ice water on a 90-year-old nursing home resident that he returned and did it two more times.

I’m incensed that a teenager would find this trick at all entertaining. As I wonder what social bankruptcy this kid was raised under, I read that three friends on the two return trips joined him.
Nursing home residents may be our most vulnerable citizens, and our society is built on respecting our elders, not tormenting them.

I’m drawn to sounding like an old person when I ask, “What kind of upbringing did these children have? Is it fair to ask the parents why their kids are so mean?”

The prosecutor will ask the court to try the boy as an adult, and he may charge the boy’s three teenage friends with aiding and abetting.

The nursing home is re-evaluating the security of the 88-bed nursing home attached to Cloquet hospital about 140 miles north of the Twin Cities. The home shouldn’t have to protect itself from this kind of mischief. Some say the teenagers were arrested to stop another attempt. The family and the staff were getting ready to defend the residents.

Maybe the staff should get their hands on these kids. You know the courts will do little for punishment. Community service is the usual punishment. That’s how this trouble started — when one of the kids visited someone at the home.

Whether it’s community service, restorative justice or jail time, the damage has been done. Making this situation right will take more than a guilty plea, a conviction and a sentence. The tragedy is that this assault happened at all.

Us old folks will blame the demise of the family. Some will blame the system, but you can almost be assured the parents won’t blame the kids. This is not a blameless act. The guilty should be punished.

Our social system will try to right this wrong, but the damage has been done. Whatever kind of creative sentencing the courts cook up won’t be enough salve to cover this hurt. Let’s hope the teenagers wish they never did something so stupid. We certainly do.

Listen to your kids — the rest of us have to

At an afternoon coffee last week, my friends and I were sitting next to a group of youngsters and their moms. The kids were disruptive to say the least.

It didn’t stop us from our usual “high-powered” discussion.

At some point during the meeting, our most senior member of our group said something within earshot of the adults with the children. It probably echoed all of our thoughts, but we were tolerating the disruption.

Our vocal coffee partner soon found himself squared off with one of the moms with her hands on her hips asking him, “Weren’t you ever a kid?”

Usually quick-witted, his reply failed to impress the mom who wasn’t really asking a question anyway.

I’m very sure we were all young. Being the youngest of the group, I’m sure I was raised in the most liberal setting. I know firsthand, if I would have been taken to a restaurant and caused that kind of disruption, I’d be in trouble.

If kids before 1960 were treated to going out to restaurant, we knew it was a time to behave and be respectful. Should we become a disruption we could count on our parents dealing with us in quick order.

“Children should be seen, not heard,” is a laugh these days.

You will see some young families with well-behaved children at a restaurant. It almost makes you stop and admire the parents’ control. It comes from routinely instilling principles, discipline and love.

I find expressive children entertaining and a joy to watch. Noisy and disruptive children shouldn’t be everyone’s burden. Yes, we were all young once, but now you’re the parent. Teach them how to behave while you can.

Jim Galewski is the retired editor and Opinion page editor of the Winona Daily News. His views don’t necessarily reflect those of the newspaper. If you have an idea or tip about a Winona issue, call Jim at (507) 452-3960. His

e-mail address is editor@luminet.net.
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Boring wrote on Mar 8, 2007 2:39 PM:

" All of this stuff is stupid.. "

License all parents wrote on Mar 8, 2007 2:30 PM:

" I can already imagine the opposition to my idea from the too-much-government-control-already crowd, but I think every parent, step-parent and legal guardian should be required to obtain a license before being allowed to raise a child. In order to earn the license, each person should be required to attend parenting and common-sense classes,and pass the tests. I've heard of this idea before, and I wholeheartedly endorse it - seriously. "

Al Rothering wrote on Mar 8, 2007 11:02 AM:

" Had I even joked about that when I was young there would have been hell to pay. and thats the key here. Those kids need a "time out" all right IN THE WOODSHED. Parents need to be held accountable. I guarentee that had these kids had the proper upbringin this would not have happened . whats it goint to take for us to learn of the wisdom in Gods Word Spare the Rod Spoil the child. just one more scripture we thumb our noses at. Then we get to Reap what we sew. Smart fella that God huh?x84ek "

as a society wrote on Mar 7, 2007 8:57 PM:

" I don't see how we respect our elders. We seem to really cling to youth and dump our parents in nursing homes far away...then visit them on mother's day or father's day. I know this is a generalization. But these stupid misfits likely never spent any quality time with grandparents or greatgrandparents. Apparently they never had the chance to realize that old people are people. "

Nursing Home Nurse (not the same NH the resident was in) wrote on Mar 6, 2007 5:37 PM:

" There is NO excuse for dumping cold water over the head of a 90 year old nursing home resident. It is physical and emotional abuse under the Vulnerable Adult statues of Minnesota law and thus punishable by law. "

To: Mom wrote on Mar 5, 2007 1:55 PM:

" I appreciate that you keep your kids in line. When I talk about children being disrespectful at a resturaunt I am thinking more of those who run around hiding under tables, screaming, crying because they don't get what they want, and the parents that ignore that behavior. I believe that your children are probably very well behaved as far as sitting in their chairs and I also believe that if your child got up and started running around the resturaunt, you would be close behind telling them that is not appropriate unless you're at McDonald's play area... "

Taking kids to resturaunts wrote on Mar 5, 2007 1:52 PM:

" I don't think it matters where you take your kids. I work in retail at a maternity clothing store and I love helping my customers.I also love kids. I can't stand it however when my job in retail turns into a babysitting job while the mother looks for clothing. As a parent you should know your child. If they can't make it through a 20 minute shopping trip, stay at home or pay a babysitter. We're paid to deal with rowdy kids. And hey did you ever stop to think that a babysitter could teach your child something? Like not to cry when he/she doesn't get what they want??? I agree with "the parents should be ashamed" spend time with your children and teach them things...don't GIVE them everything. "

Mom wrote on Mar 5, 2007 1:42 PM:

" I have 6 children, 3 that are 4 or under. When we are all going out to eat, I head for McD's or Pizza Hut or another family restaurant. If you are also eating there, then please be tolerant of those of us with young children. Regardless of where I am, I try to keep my children in line - although they are sometimes loud, they are never disrespectful. It is always nice when someone comments positively on your kid's behavior. I always pass those comments on to my kids and thank them for making me a proud mom. "

JD wrote on Mar 5, 2007 10:31 AM:

" I am right along side Jim with this column. I cannot tell you how many times my boyfriend and I, who are professionals with no children have gone to a restuarant and been miserable because kids were running around, screaming and being disruptive. I have been nice and asked parents to calm their child down and even have gone so far as to ask management to say something. Then at least one person in the group gets angry. C'mon parents, disipline your kids, if for no other reason than the majority of the public doesn't want to hear them. "

To ACLU wrote on Mar 5, 2007 8:44 AM:

" So are you saying that this kid that dumped the ice water, on a defenseless 90 year old; not just once, but three times has a right to express himself in this manner. Can we put you in a wheelchair and tie your hands and feet, then beat you until you feel like a 90 year old and dump three pitchers of ice water over your head at three different times? A right to and alternative lifestyle is fine as long as it does not cause fear and harm to others. "

the parents should be ashamed wrote on Mar 4, 2007 1:27 PM:

" I'm sure the parents of these teens are in complete denial...after all, I'm sure the kids got sent to the best day cares, babysitters, and schools...and got all the neatest and newest gadgets and toys. That's just wonderful...except for the fact that you should actually spend some time with your kids when they are growing up. If people don't have the time to devote to their children instead of paying others to raise them...get a cat, it'll take care of itself. "

Al Rothering wrote on Mar 4, 2007 11:13 AM:

" yu know jim, i really enjoy sitting down to read your comments. and feel you have a pretty fair grip on your subject matter . but this reply thing drives me nuts!!~! I can't even tell yu the number of times I've spent a good 30 min to an hour two fingering a comment only to find it's not excepted for the 150 word limit. it's very hard to produce a comment with good body and support in 150 words. reach over and slap the fella who sets the limit willya? "

Frank Schnurstein wrote on Mar 4, 2007 12:48 AM:

" To: And Frank is boring, too... From your comments I can only assume that you see nothing wrong with this kind of criminal, abnormal behavior and that you also see nothing wrong with your tax dollars being wasted. I am so glad I am not you, but if I was, I would hide behind anonymity too. "

ACLU wrote on Mar 4, 2007 12:20 AM:

" Has anyone considered that these rascals were just practicing an alternative lifestyle? Would a little tolerance for their right to choose be too much to ask? "

Frank Schurstein wrote on Mar 3, 2007 11:30 AM:

" To:And Frank is boring, too... Since you see nothing wrong with criminal and abnormal behavior - that tells me much more about who you are than who you mistakenly think I am. And since you don't think our tax dollars are being wasted - you obviously derive much more benefit from tax revenue than I do - which tells me even more about who you are. "

To 3:29, Galewski and Schnurstein wrote on Mar 3, 2007 10:58 AM:

" You're wrong. Our kids are honor students and extremely well behaved. We've found that kids that are treated with respect and kindness and aren't constantly badgered by adults who think they need to be telling kids every move to make every minute of the day are the best kids. Apparently you and Galewski and Schnurstein are among those parents constantly telling kids what to do, when to do it and how to do it (typical right-wing bullies). Nobody condones what the nursing home kid did and he deserves punishment, but most kids are good kids and Galewski's constant bellyaching about kids and the Wilkie is real boring. Get a life! "

The point....... wrote on Mar 3, 2007 9:13 AM:

" The point of this artical was the fact the the teenagers were abusing the resident in the nursing home, Yes abuse comes in all shapes and forms not just hitting. The teenagers had no respect for the resident. As for taking children to resturants and letting them act up, is not called for leave the children at home if they can not behave in a restraunt, or better yet take them to one that they can play at like Macdonalds. Some people go out to resturants to enjoy tehmselvels. Yes I have a child who is now old enough to sit in a resturant and not get board. Us a parents need to decide where and how long a child should be able to sit at a resturant if the child starts acting up or is gettig borerd then it is time to leave end of comment. "

Good punishment... wrote on Mar 2, 2007 6:54 PM:

" The kid who dumped the water...send him to Minnesota state prison for 24 hours. One night in real prison, not county jail or juvie. Give him a test, because that's where he's headed if he doesn't shape up. "

To boring and to And Frank wrote on Mar 2, 2007 3:29 PM:

" You are probably the same parents who have no control over your kids. I also get sick and tired of parents who let their kids run wild in a resturant and ruin everybody elses good time. Many times I find myself saying to these rediculous parant, "would you please control your kids"? You are the one that needs to "get a life". Then your kids will also have a decent life. "

Ridiculous wrote on Mar 2, 2007 3:12 PM:

" Are there any more details to the nursing home story somewhere? Was it during daylight? Was the resident outside? Sleeping? Did the kid have a beef of some kind with the resident? I don't get it. Maybe if he has to spend some time incarcerated, the guards could give him some of the same "treatment" "

And Frank is boring, too... wrote on Mar 2, 2007 10:08 AM:

" same as Jim Galewski. Don't you guys have anything better to do than bellyache about kids and money all the time? Get a life... Gad, it must be boring to be so grouchy and crotchety all the time... "

Frank Schnurstein wrote on Mar 2, 2007 8:23 AM:

" Both points well made and well said. "

Galewski is getting boring wrote on Mar 2, 2007 7:41 AM:

" All he ever does is complain about money and kids anymore. Enough already! Get a life, Jim! "


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