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Published - Thursday, October 26, 2006
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WSU prof discusses geology of good beer

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You might not associate laughter with a science lecture.

But then you might not expect the lecture to be about beer. Or the most efficient route through the grocery store on a busy Saturday morning.
Winona State University Professor Toby Dogwiler explained how differences in the rock deep below the ground influence the varieties of beer produced in different countries.

“I prefer cider,” the geoscientist said to open the discussion Wednesday — part of the university’s semester-long interdisciplanary series on why science matters in everyday life. “But I like beer a lot.”

Different kinds of bedrock produce different kinds of groundwater, Dogwiler said. And since beer is 90 percent water, the water that comes from the well affects the taste.

Hard water — with high alkaline content — makes bad beer, he said.

So in Dublin, Ireland, brewers use lots of malt to make the water more acidic. Add enough malt and you get that city’s famously muddy brown Guiness stout.

In Burton-on-Trent in England, the groundwater is is more acidic — perfect for a light India pale ale, Dogwiler said.

The lectures were part of a series developed three years ago by a loosely organized group of professors who wanted to create an intellectually stimulating atmosphere outside of the campus that brings students and teachers from different subject areas together, said Jim Armstrong, a professor of English.

“Education is not just about sitting in a class ...” he said. “It’s about big ideas and how those ideas connect to the real world.”

In a second lecture, WSU physics professor Nathan Moore discussed how to get in and out of the grocery store without the hassle of maneuvering between people and carts.

He examined the floor layout of Winona’s HyVee.

He presented a grocery list of all the items he would need for a Thanksgiving dinner. Then he created a graph which plotted the location of each item.

“You’ve got all these different ways of visiting the same place,” Moore said. “That’s like the eggs first or the milk first.”

Moore used the store’s tile floor squares as the coordinates for his graph.

He has created a computer program to calculate how many paths a shopper can take through the store based on a grocery list.

However, the program cannot calculate exactly which path is the fastest because it doesn’t account for aisles.

Moore said it is up to the individual shopper to find which path is the fastest, but a general easy way to get in and out of the grocery store is to “walk to the closest thing.”

What are they talking about?

For the past three years, a group of Winona State University professors has come up with a timely topic for a series of interdisciplinary talks.

This year’s topic, “Does science matter?” was chosen because of a decline in interest in science, said Jim Armstrong, a professor in the English department who helped organize the series.

“Fewer of us are going into science,” he said. “The level of scientific illiteracy among students is rising.”

But it isn’t just scientists giving the talks.

Next week, an English professor will discuss how much science there really is in science fiction and a theater professor will talk about the connections between arts and science in the work of playwright Tom Stoppard.

Upcoming talks in the WSU series

Wednesday

How Much Science Is There in Science Fiction? — Rob Brault, English

How Much Science Is There in Tom Stoppard? — David Bratt, Theatre and Dance

Nov. 8

Making Interdisciplinary Connections n Science and Art — Jennifer Anderson, Geoscience; and Sharon Mansur, Theater and Dance

How Architect Santiago Calatrava Combines the Science of Physics with the Art of Sculpture — Juan C. Fernandez-Iglesias, Foreign Language

Nov. 15

Magical Realism vs. The Marvelous Real: Reading Human Potential in Literature — Gretchen Michlitsch, English

From Poetic to Political Justice: British Romanticism and the Science of Population — William Hacker, English

Nov. 29

Why Race is Incompatible with Science — Michael Bowler, Global Studies

Native Americans and Science — Cindy Killion, Mass Communication

All talks begin at 7 p.m. in Stark Auditorium, Sanborn and Winona streets, and are free and open to the public.
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Science Education wrote on Oct 28, 2006 8:21 AM:

" Science education in the US is desperately in need of more educators like Dr. Dogwiler and Dr. Moore who are able to make complex scientific concepts more accessible to students and the public. I applaud their incredible efforts in opening people's eyes about how science is everywhere and I congratulate them on their obvious success. I can only hope that other educators present at their talks saw the effect on the 100+ students in the room and work to make the same difference. What a fantastic way for my tax money to be spent -- improving the scientific literacy in this country. If given the choice between another missile or more money for educators, I know which will change the world for the better. If only we gave them more money -- imagine what a difference they would make! "

Katie wrote on Oct 27, 2006 2:21 PM:

" Not only did these guy NOT get paid for doing these lectures, they also gave up an evening with their families to do them. That's how dedicated they are to their professions. I'd say this lecture series, open and free to the public (not just students), is proof that your tax dollars ARE hard at work! "

Nathan Moore wrote on Oct 27, 2006 10:34 AM:

" Hi, this is Professor Moore from the Physics Department at Winona State. I'd like to make a few comments. I did not get paid to give this lecture, I did it for fun. That said, part of a professors' function is to create a vibrant academic climate and to encourage curiosity, which all of these lectures have accomplished. At the talk you would have heard about how finding the shortest path through the grocery store is identical to how Walmart or FedEx figures out the most efficient way to distribute retail products, or the efforts to understand how proteins are created (proteins are the motors inside your body that make life possible). Why do you immediately assume that the faculty at WSU are wasting money and making the world a worse place? "

Ezzee wrote on Oct 26, 2006 9:17 PM:

" First of all, this was a lecture. This was not a class. This is something that the professors decided to volunteer their own personal free time to do and set up. Secondly, while it may not seem the most education, I think the real point here is to demonstrate some of those principles that we learn in class in the real world sense. That's the more important part here. Sometimes, it'd hard to imagine why one is learning about conservation and ground water until we see it in use in the real world. I'm still not sure what the quadratic formula has as far as real world applications, but I'm sure it is out there. "

Kevin H wrote on Oct 26, 2006 3:30 PM:

" However, the program cannot calculate exactly which path is the fastest because it doesn’t account for aisles. Moore said it is up to the individual shopper to find which path is the fastest, but a general easy way to get in and out of the grocery store is to “walk to the closest thing.” So, basically this was a complete waste of lecture time. I'm sure the students paying for the class appreciate that. "

HyVee wrote on Oct 26, 2006 1:39 PM:

" I am a mother of 3 without a PhD, I could have EASILY shown the dear professor how to navigate through HyVee at mach speed. I could have done it WITH 3 kids AND a diaper bag in tote. Who needs software for that!? "

My tax dollars hard at work once again wrote on Oct 26, 2006 11:34 AM:

" We pay these guys to do this? Good thing they can hide out in a University and not be beholden to a P & L sheet or shareholders...Bravo! good waste of taxpayers dollars you libs! "


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